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Sure. Beef with an organization. But if you are going to bother signing up, is 'jeans' really the hill to die on? If the beef is with the organization, just b

Sure. Beef with an organization. But if you are going to bother signing up, is 'jeans' really the hill to die on? If the beef is with the organization, just boycott altogether. Otherwise, just put on some pants. EDIT: Perhaps the downvotes are because of disagreement with methods of protest? What brings greater attention to your cause? 1. A boycott, you just don't go to the event? And make a press statement about it, that probably doesn't get any headlines. or 2. Sign up, go, then angrily get disqualified, based on some stupid rule, which gets a lot of headlines, and attention focused on silly rules of the organization? Guess, if the goal was to effect change, then maybe this was the correct move. But if it was just being pissi, then why bother signing up, you know the rules, so just don't go.

reaperducer 2y ago
Otherwise, just put on some pants. I agree. This isn't high school rebellion. Is the real world. Adults dress appropriately for different places and different times. You can be denied admission to a restaurant, a business, an office meeting, or even a concert for not dressing appropriately. This is no different. Grow up and put on some pants. Be sloppy in your own home.
- ruthmarx 2y ago
  Jeans are pants and wearing them isn't sloppy.
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    I've had jobs where I'd absolutely be sent home if I turned up wearing jeans. Might be a little less likely these days but there are many jobs and situations where this still applies. It's also about showing respect to the host, you dress nicely. Would you wear jeans to church or to a wedding?
    - FrustratedMonky 2y ago
      I agree. Just a decade ago, jeans would have me escorted from work. The business dress code was 'pants', jeans were not allowed. Everyone is arguing about 'jean's not being a big deal. And, all dress codes are wrong. So, can a female player wear a bikini? By the arguments here, then yes, that should be allowed. Would it interfere with game play? I think yes. Can someone wear a bright orange Sarang with blinking lights? How do you draw the line? Doesn't there need to be a line somewhere so there isn't chaos? It's just that todays generation now thinks 'jeans' are ok. 20 years ago they were not.
      - ruthmarx 2y ago
        > The business dress code was 'pants', jeans were not allowed. > It's just that todays generation now thinks 'jeans' are ok. 'jeans' literally are 'pants' though. If a dress code specifies pants, jeans are fine, unless they specifically exclude jeans as a type of pants.
        FrustratedMonky 2y ago
        Obviously, you have never had to use that vacuous argument with an HR department. This is completely not True. Either 1. You know it is not true, and are just trolling. or 2. You do believe this, and have just redefined these words to fit a particular world view. Which I guess can happen. If this generation has re-defined the words 'jeans' and 'pants', then guess, I can't argue against how people re-define words. Just goes to how the world is being divided by re-defining entire vocabularies.
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        I'm not trolling and correct, I've never had to use that argument. Are you British or something? In the US and most western countries, pants simply means some kind of full leg covering, and generally that's going to be jeans, chinos, or trousers/slacks. All are pants. A companies dress code will generally exclude jeans if they are not acceptable. I haven't redefined anything.
Enginerrrd 2y ago
Similarly, is a stupid rule about the type of fabric of a players pants really the hill to die on enforcement-wise? Discretion is a thing. Jeans has NOTHING to do with playing chess.
- thatswrong0 2y ago
  Especially when others are wearing chinos that look like jeans. Discretion should be a thing. This being a thing at all certainly proves Magnus’ point. Its not 1970.

reaperducer 2y ago

Otherwise, just put on some pants. I agree. This isn't high school rebellion. Is the real world. Adults dress appropriately for different places and different times. You can be denied admission to a restaurant, a business, an office meeting, or even a concert for not dressing appropriately. This is no different. Grow up and put on some pants. Be sloppy in your own home.

ruthmarx 2y ago
Jeans are pants and wearing them isn't sloppy.
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  I've had jobs where I'd absolutely be sent home if I turned up wearing jeans. Might be a little less likely these days but there are many jobs and situations where this still applies. It's also about showing respect to the host, you dress nicely. Would you wear jeans to church or to a wedding?
  - FrustratedMonky 2y ago
    I agree. Just a decade ago, jeans would have me escorted from work. The business dress code was 'pants', jeans were not allowed. Everyone is arguing about 'jean's not being a big deal. And, all dress codes are wrong. So, can a female player wear a bikini? By the arguments here, then yes, that should be allowed. Would it interfere with game play? I think yes. Can someone wear a bright orange Sarang with blinking lights? How do you draw the line? Doesn't there need to be a line somewhere so there isn't chaos? It's just that todays generation now thinks 'jeans' are ok. 20 years ago they were not.
    - ruthmarx 2y ago
      > The business dress code was 'pants', jeans were not allowed. > It's just that todays generation now thinks 'jeans' are ok. 'jeans' literally are 'pants' though. If a dress code specifies pants, jeans are fine, unless they specifically exclude jeans as a type of pants.
      - FrustratedMonky 2y ago
        Obviously, you have never had to use that vacuous argument with an HR department. This is completely not True. Either 1. You know it is not true, and are just trolling. or 2. You do believe this, and have just redefined these words to fit a particular world view. Which I guess can happen. If this generation has re-defined the words 'jeans' and 'pants', then guess, I can't argue against how people re-define words. Just goes to how the world is being divided by re-defining entire vocabularies.
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        I'm not trolling and correct, I've never had to use that argument. Are you British or something? In the US and most western countries, pants simply means some kind of full leg covering, and generally that's going to be jeans, chinos, or trousers/slacks. All are pants. A companies dress code will generally exclude jeans if they are not acceptable. I haven't redefined anything.

Enginerrrd 2y ago

Similarly, is a stupid rule about the type of fabric of a players pants really the hill to die on enforcement-wise? Discretion is a thing. Jeans has NOTHING to do with playing chess.

thatswrong0 2y ago
Especially when others are wearing chinos that look like jeans. Discretion should be a thing. This being a thing at all certainly proves Magnus’ point. Its not 1970.