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Europe isn't doing nothing, it's sending weapons to Ukraine. That hurts Russia, but not as directly as firing them yourself.
by Scarblac 2y ago
Europe isn't doing nothing, it's sending weapons to Ukraine. That hurts Russia, but not as directly as firing them yourself.
- medo-bear 2y ago[flagged]
- cpursley 2y ago[flagged]
- joyeuse6701 2y agoYes yes, and if you think this is a senseless war that’ll instantly stop all future Russian aggression once it concludes in Russian favor, like trustworthy Putin has always promised, you can join the Russian army as a foreigner and help! Here’s some information to get you started: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/20/moscow-to-open-military-recruitment-center-for-foreigners-a78846 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/20/moscow-to-open-mil... It’s a multicultural affair, Nepalese, Ethiopians, North Koreans, Indians, a real who’s who of the most privileged individuals lending a hand in this noble pursuit of saving Ukrainians from themselves. Unsure? Donate to Russian units today, they need vehicles, drones, and tourniquets. We officially don’t need help, the SMO is going great, but every bit helps! Put your money where your mouth is and help end the war! Can’t do that? Assist the Russian psy-ops by repeating Russian talking points online to nudge your government to help us subjugate a people like it’s 1700! Don’t delay, start today!
- tz10276 2y agoThis is hardly a Russian talking point. Russia does not want more Ukrainian soldiers. The entire neocon press makes the point that people are evading service: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/29/i-am-not-made-for-war-the-men-fleeing-ukraine-to-evade-conscription https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/29/i-am-n... https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-faces-an-acute-manpower-shortage-with-young-men-dodging-the-draft/ https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-faces-an-acute-manpo... https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/world/europe/ukraine-war-draft-dodgers-conscription.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/world/europe/ukraine-war-... I don't blame them. That's why it would have been better to accept the Istanbul agreement while Ukraine had the upper hand. Naftali Bennett (hardly opposed to wars in principle) said that this agreement was sabotaged by the U.S., but he walked back that statement later. I do blame Ukraine for not holding elections and finding out what people really want.
- fullspectrumdev 2y agoIt’s against the fucking constitution in Ukraine to hold elections during wartime. I don’t understand why people in west find that so hard to wrap their heads around, especially Americans.
- really1827 2y agoBecause it is a silly rule. These kind of wars drag on for 10 years. What if the population no longer wants it? Should they have another Maidan revolution?
- rfrey 2y agoWhat's hard to understand? It's Russian financed propaganda, with courier services provided by the far right and far left. The far right happens to be in control of the Republican party at the moment, so we hear more if it with that spin.
- cpursley 2y ago"It's okay that Putin is president for life, it's in their constitution - why can't Americans (especially Americans) wrap their head around that!"
- cpursley 2y agoYour response comes across as racist even if you did not intend it that way. Very much a "us civilized noble Europeans vs those Asiatic / brown savages" vibe.
- GoblinSlayer 2y agoI read as sarcasm: "Want to stop the war? Join it."
- coffeebeqn 2y agoWhat’s the alternative?
- zardo 2y agoFlee the country. Of course those with the money or connections to make that possible have already done so.
- dralley 2y agoFor this argument to make any sense, Russia would have to be invading and murdering less enthusiastically without the Western support. Which is nonsense.
- medo-bear 2y agoUnfortunately I cant make sense of what you wrote
- andrewflnr 2y agoNo, it's hurting more the people the weapons are fired at. Don't try to make it more complicated than it is.
- medo-bear 2y agoThe US is currently pressuring the Ukranian government to lower the conscription age to 18. In Russia there does not seem to be any conscription at the moment. You make your own conclusion
- andrewflnr 2y agoNo, Russia is emptying its prisons and bringing in troops from North Korea instead. You make your own conclusion.
- medo-bear 2y agoSo according to you Ukraine is doing such a fine job the EU has nothing to fear
- andrewflnr 2y ago[dead]
- alistairSH 2y agoSo, the people of Ukraine should just give up and let Russia take over? That’s a pretty ridiculous take.
- CyberDildonics 2y ago[flagged]
- aliasxneo 2y agoHow is that not true, though? Claiming it’s Ukraines fault for the war is absurd, but joining NATO was always going to be seen as a provocative act. It’s geopolitics and there’s never black and white lines.
- CyberDildonics 2y ago> joining NATO was always going to be seen as a provocative act By who? Propagandists trying to rationalize invading a sovereign nation? If I join one neighbor's neighborhood watch group, another neighbor doesn't get to say I provoked them and burn my house down.
- s1artibartfast 2y ago[flagged]
- CyberDildonics 2y agoI don't know what you're talking about that isn't within a sovereign country's rights. Do you think russia was "provoked into invading" ? Just come out and say it.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoI dont really see what rights have to do with it. My point is that the current situation was entirely predictable, and in fact, it was widely predicted. I'm not making some moral point.
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- buildsjets 2y agoRussia does not use conscription. All those troops volunteered to be there. At least that is what leader Vlad is claiming. Are you disagreeing with the Dear Leader?
- stogot 2y agoActually he admitted to doing so https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/09/europe/russia-conscripts-fighting-ukraine-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/09/europe/russia-conscripts-figh... And they’re being used in Kursk given that Putin is not bringing units from Donetsk to push them out (and is supplemented by DPRK)
- s1artibartfast 2y agoThe overwhelming majority are well paid volunteers. The topic of conscription is highly political in Russia. Paying them is a major cost of the war and limitation on manpower. The pro war faction has been pushing for conscription to enable a surge, but meaningful conscription has not occurred.
- NerdSniper9001 2y ago[flagged]
- medo-bear 2y agoLol. Are you serious?
- NerdSniper9001 2y ago[dead]
- pvaldes 2y agoAnd helping millions of expatriate Ukrainians from the minute zero.