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They actually tested for people standing nearby terrorists to ensure they’re not injured. That’s in the documentary. Anyway well done the IDF for making the Mid

by nailer 2y ago

They actually tested for people standing nearby terrorists to ensure they’re not injured. That’s in the documentary. Anyway well done the IDF for making the Middle East a better place without Hezbollah.

pxmpxm 2y ago
If you redefine exploding pagers issued strictly to members of the organization you're trying to eliminate as indiscriminate, what does that even leave as disriminate targetting? Feels like an entirely disingenuous line of argument; i don't like israel therefore _______
- immibis 2y ago
  The issue is that the pagers did not solely belong to terrorist organizations. Just like all the missiles hitting apartment buildings in Gaza didn't hit apartment buildings where only terrorists lived. Why are we still believing this line of no collateral damage? (I suppose we could interpret that the damage still occurred but was not collateral - that would imply it was purposeful)
  - pxmpxm 2y ago
    I thought the whole reason this was newsworthy is because Israeli security apparatus managed to intercept Hezbollah new pager shipment? That is, pagers ordered by Hezbollah to be used by Hezbollah members.
    - immibis 2y ago
      Well, Israel said they were only for Hezbollah members. Israel also says it only missile-strikes Hamas bases. In both cases, the corpses of civilians say differently.
      - pxmpxm 2y ago
        So the thing you alluded to earlier - mossad shoving explosives into just random pagers - was a completely unsubstantiated speculation? About the only collateral damage that I've read about was a child that was sitting on a hamas member's lap when the pager triggered. It would appear you are one of the "i don't like israel therefore ____" people.
4gotunameagain 2y ago
Because the IDF would not crank the propaganda machine to the max following such an act. Also, as a reminder, Hezbollah was founded in 1982 by Lebanese clerics in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. The middle east would be a much better place without Hezbollah & Israel, for sure.

by nailer 2y ago

pxmpxm 2y ago

If you redefine exploding pagers issued strictly to members of the organization you're trying to eliminate as indiscriminate, what does that even leave as disriminate targetting? Feels like an entirely disingenuous line of argument; i don't like israel therefore _______

immibis 2y ago
The issue is that the pagers did not solely belong to terrorist organizations. Just like all the missiles hitting apartment buildings in Gaza didn't hit apartment buildings where only terrorists lived. Why are we still believing this line of no collateral damage? (I suppose we could interpret that the damage still occurred but was not collateral - that would imply it was purposeful)
- pxmpxm 2y ago
  I thought the whole reason this was newsworthy is because Israeli security apparatus managed to intercept Hezbollah new pager shipment? That is, pagers ordered by Hezbollah to be used by Hezbollah members.
  - immibis 2y ago
    Well, Israel said they were only for Hezbollah members. Israel also says it only missile-strikes Hamas bases. In both cases, the corpses of civilians say differently.
    - pxmpxm 2y ago
      So the thing you alluded to earlier - mossad shoving explosives into just random pagers - was a completely unsubstantiated speculation? About the only collateral damage that I've read about was a child that was sitting on a hamas member's lap when the pager triggered. It would appear you are one of the "i don't like israel therefore ____" people.

4gotunameagain 2y ago

Because the IDF would not crank the propaganda machine to the max following such an act. Also, as a reminder, Hezbollah was founded in 1982 by Lebanese clerics in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. The middle east would be a much better place without Hezbollah & Israel, for sure.