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Articles 51 and 54, Protocol I, Geneva conventions: ..outlaw indiscriminate attacks on civilian populations, and destruction of food sources, water, and other
by 4gotunameagain 2y ago
Articles 51 and 54, Protocol I, Geneva conventions:
..outlaw indiscriminate attacks on civilian populations, and destruction of food sources, water, and other materials needed for survival. This include directly attacking civilian (non-military) targets, but also using technologies whose scope of destruction cannot be limited. A total war that does not distinguish between civilian and military targets is considered a war crime.
It is pretty clear that you cannot control not only who receives a pager, but also who is near a person with a pager.
There are multiple clips circulating where the pager bombs went off in public, and multiple stories about the pager bombs going off inside peoples houses.
Imagine being at a grocery store and a bomb goes off next to you. You couldn't have escaped the warzone because you are trapped. Imagine if this has happened to IDF fighters, how it would be portrayed. This is clearly terrorism.
- nailer 2y agoThey actually tested for people standing nearby terrorists to ensure they’re not injured. That’s in the documentary. Anyway well done the IDF for making the Middle East a better place without Hezbollah.
- pxmpxm 2y agoIf you redefine exploding pagers issued strictly to members of the organization you're trying to eliminate as indiscriminate, what does that even leave as disriminate targetting? Feels like an entirely disingenuous line of argument; i don't like israel therefore _______
- immibis 2y agoThe issue is that the pagers did not solely belong to terrorist organizations. Just like all the missiles hitting apartment buildings in Gaza didn't hit apartment buildings where only terrorists lived. Why are we still believing this line of no collateral damage? (I suppose we could interpret that the damage still occurred but was not collateral - that would imply it was purposeful)
- pxmpxm 2y agoI thought the whole reason this was newsworthy is because Israeli security apparatus managed to intercept Hezbollah new pager shipment? That is, pagers ordered by Hezbollah to be used by Hezbollah members.
- immibis 2y agoWell, Israel said they were only for Hezbollah members. Israel also says it only missile-strikes Hamas bases. In both cases, the corpses of civilians say differently.
- pxmpxm 2y agoSo the thing you alluded to earlier - mossad shoving explosives into just random pagers - was a completely unsubstantiated speculation? About the only collateral damage that I've read about was a child that was sitting on a hamas member's lap when the pager triggered. It would appear you are one of the "i don't like israel therefore ____" people.
- 4gotunameagain 2y agoBecause the IDF would not crank the propaganda machine to the max following such an act. Also, as a reminder, Hezbollah was founded in 1982 by Lebanese clerics in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. The middle east would be a much better place without Hezbollah & Israel, for sure.