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I hate faults like that. Used to work in PC repair. Man brings in PC, mouse right click doesn't work. Everything else operates perfectly. Replaced in this ord

I hate faults like that. Used to work in PC repair. Man brings in PC, mouse right click doesn't work. Everything else operates perfectly. Replaced in this order: mouse, IO card, hard drive with fresh OS, RAM, CPU, graphics card, motherboard. Still no right-click. Replaced the PSU last. Right-click works. FML.

donalhunt 2y ago
Reminds me of an old hwops story where one machine just constantly failed despite replacing every part on the tray multiple times. The conclusion was that the tray was bad. Google's definition of a server was (and still is afaik) based on the tray (chassis) so there was no way to replace it. IIRC it was "retired" with vengeance leaving a gap in the cabinet — a warning to other trays to behave.
Frenchgeek 2y ago
You didn't have to replace the house's wiring at least (Happened to an aunt of mine: Gave her a computer, it worked perfectly outside of her home. The electrician was a tad horrified. She still scoffed when I suggested the computer wasn't the problem first.)
- qingcharles 2y ago
  Yeah, lucky it didn't get that far, "Sorry bro, I gotta try just replacing your house."
- Moru 2y ago
  I plugged my old Atari into an outlet in the old basement in a different building. The HDD-cable started burning. Electric company plugged in some device to measure power over time. Turns out the power was slightly below normal but within tollerances. The OEM power supply that was powering my Atari wasn't up to standards. If I remember right, badly designed PSU's can feed too high current if the voltage is too low. Or something like that, was a very long time ago...
  - ajb 2y ago
    Many switch mode power supplies will increase the current draw if the voltage drops, that's why many of them will work on both 120 and 248V, while old school power supplies need a manual switch. I had a brownout once and thought my washing machine was broken because that was the only thing that stopped working (Until evening when I switched on the lights. That was back in the days of incandescents, oddly though led lights still dim with lower power, I don't know how they do voltage conversion). We have so many cheap power supplies in our houses that it would not surprise me if at least some become unsafe if the source voltage drops too low. Being unsafe with only a slight drop is weird though.
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ksec 2y ago
>Replaced the PSU last. Right-click works. FML. My experience is always replace DRAM, and then PSU, and then Swap Motherboard. I don't think people realise how many faults there are with DRAM, PSU and MB. DRAM quality has gotten a lot better in the past 10 years so that is less of an issue. PSU, however it where cost cutting are and more often than not causes problems.

donalhunt 2y ago

Reminds me of an old hwops story where one machine just constantly failed despite replacing every part on the tray multiple times. The conclusion was that the tray was bad. Google's definition of a server was (and still is afaik) based on the tray (chassis) so there was no way to replace it. IIRC it was "retired" with vengeance leaving a gap in the cabinet — a warning to other trays to behave.

Frenchgeek 2y ago

You didn't have to replace the house's wiring at least (Happened to an aunt of mine: Gave her a computer, it worked perfectly outside of her home. The electrician was a tad horrified. She still scoffed when I suggested the computer wasn't the problem first.)

qingcharles 2y ago
Yeah, lucky it didn't get that far, "Sorry bro, I gotta try just replacing your house."
Moru 2y ago
I plugged my old Atari into an outlet in the old basement in a different building. The HDD-cable started burning. Electric company plugged in some device to measure power over time. Turns out the power was slightly below normal but within tollerances. The OEM power supply that was powering my Atari wasn't up to standards. If I remember right, badly designed PSU's can feed too high current if the voltage is too low. Or something like that, was a very long time ago...
- ajb 2y ago
  Many switch mode power supplies will increase the current draw if the voltage drops, that's why many of them will work on both 120 and 248V, while old school power supplies need a manual switch. I had a brownout once and thought my washing machine was broken because that was the only thing that stopped working (Until evening when I switched on the lights. That was back in the days of incandescents, oddly though led lights still dim with lower power, I don't know how they do voltage conversion). We have so many cheap power supplies in our houses that it would not surprise me if at least some become unsafe if the source voltage drops too low. Being unsafe with only a slight drop is weird though.
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ksec 2y ago

>Replaced the PSU last. Right-click works. FML. My experience is always replace DRAM, and then PSU, and then Swap Motherboard. I don't think people realise how many faults there are with DRAM, PSU and MB. DRAM quality has gotten a lot better in the past 10 years so that is less of an issue. PSU, however it where cost cutting are and more often than not causes problems.