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> In case of a massive breach, it’s more likely that everyone will have to get a new passport and re-prove their identity for that using separate means. If you

by xvilka 2y ago

> In case of a massive breach, it’s more likely that everyone will have to get a new passport and re-prove their identity for that using separate means. If you have a big family with the ownership of many assets - a car, house or an apartment, bank accounts, mortgage, various subsidies, and so on, the number of instances that you need to go to change your old passport data to a new one could quickly grow up to one hundred, depending on a country. The biggest problem with reissuing a passport is that its number and issuance date change, forcing you to jump through many hoops to continue life as before.

jltsiren 2y ago
That sounds weird. Which country abuses passports like that? From my perspective, a passport is just an identity document. It's not a source of identity. When you get a new passport, your identity doesn't change, so you don't have to update your information anywhere. Immigration officials may be the main exception, if you live outside the country of your citizenship. Or maybe there is some hassle if you need to transfer a visa to the new passport.
- Joker_vD 2y ago
  > It's not a source of identity. Lots of countries use ID's serial number as a sort of identity. Like, your bank would literally store "Mr. John Doe, G.I. ID 60-05 123-456-9012, D.o.B. 1985-07-29, etc." in your record, and when the next time you visit a branch and show them your new ID, it better have a "previously issued IDs" section on it with that old ID number there, so they would confirm that it's still you and update their record.
layer8 2y ago
The passport can retain the same ID. It’s only its certification that changes. This is analogous to how a web server doesn’t need to change its domain name when the TLS certificate has to be replaced. And presumably, you would still have to renew your passport every ten years or so anyway.

by xvilka 2y ago

jltsiren 2y ago

That sounds weird. Which country abuses passports like that? From my perspective, a passport is just an identity document. It's not a source of identity. When you get a new passport, your identity doesn't change, so you don't have to update your information anywhere. Immigration officials may be the main exception, if you live outside the country of your citizenship. Or maybe there is some hassle if you need to transfer a visa to the new passport.

Joker_vD 2y ago
> It's not a source of identity. Lots of countries use ID's serial number as a sort of identity. Like, your bank would literally store "Mr. John Doe, G.I. ID 60-05 123-456-9012, D.o.B. 1985-07-29, etc." in your record, and when the next time you visit a branch and show them your new ID, it better have a "previously issued IDs" section on it with that old ID number there, so they would confirm that it's still you and update their record.

layer8 2y ago

The passport can retain the same ID. It’s only its certification that changes. This is analogous to how a web server doesn’t need to change its domain name when the TLS certificate has to be replaced. And presumably, you would still have to renew your passport every ten years or so anyway.