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The answer is simple: No matter the reason, if you have a data breach you must pay each person 100$ min with higher amounts depending on the information lost. A

The answer is simple: No matter the reason, if you have a data breach you must pay each person 100$ min with higher amounts depending on the information lost. Additionally, if that information is used in a crime then you are liable for further damages. Car companies, and other data vacuums, will just stop collecting it if they are liable for what happens to it. I will not buy a car that does this. I am starting to turn my phone off when I am not using it as well. Being tracked every second of my life is not acceptable.

tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
The $100 thing is kind of a standard that a European court just established in a Facebook data leak case! In the case of full location data, it would need to be a lot more though. Yes, that might bankrupt the company. They should have thought about that before they illegally stalked nearly a million people then put their highly sensitive data on the Internet. If I did this to one person, I'd probably (and rightfully) go to jail. I'd like the same standard applied here.
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- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  Ugh, I would love to see more companies bankrupted. How much more dynamic the economy might be if all of Volkswagens assets were put up for bid at government auction. Adbusters magazine (credited with spurring occupy wallstreet with a solid meme campaign) tried to get inertia going around revoking corporate charters, stop acting like we don't have power, corporations are borne into existence by acts of government, we are not powerless to punish them for crimes against humanity (to be dramatic about it, I don't know what language would be appropriate for collecting location information for a million individuals without disclosure), but didn't see much traction about it. https://www.adbusters.org/full-articles/rise-of-the-corporate-charter-revocation-movement https://www.adbusters.org/full-articles/rise-of-the-corporat...
  - namaria 2y ago
    Governments aren't powerless to revoke corporate charters. They're powerless to implode the livelihood of large chunks of their electorate. A dynamic economy is great on paper where you don't have to worry about disrupting the lives of tens of thousands of people. Call that a political moat.
Vinnl 2y ago
> I will not buy a car that does this. Unfortunately it looks like that might be pretty hard: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/article...
- Lio 2y ago
  One way of looking at it is that the manufacturers are acting as a cartel to prevent anyone having access to privacy.

tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago

The $100 thing is kind of a standard that a European court just established in a Facebook data leak case! In the case of full location data, it would need to be a lot more though. Yes, that might bankrupt the company. They should have thought about that before they illegally stalked nearly a million people then put their highly sensitive data on the Internet. If I did this to one person, I'd probably (and rightfully) go to jail. I'd like the same standard applied here.

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jazzyjackson 2y ago
Ugh, I would love to see more companies bankrupted. How much more dynamic the economy might be if all of Volkswagens assets were put up for bid at government auction. Adbusters magazine (credited with spurring occupy wallstreet with a solid meme campaign) tried to get inertia going around revoking corporate charters, stop acting like we don't have power, corporations are borne into existence by acts of government, we are not powerless to punish them for crimes against humanity (to be dramatic about it, I don't know what language would be appropriate for collecting location information for a million individuals without disclosure), but didn't see much traction about it. https://www.adbusters.org/full-articles/rise-of-the-corporate-charter-revocation-movement https://www.adbusters.org/full-articles/rise-of-the-corporat...
- namaria 2y ago
  Governments aren't powerless to revoke corporate charters. They're powerless to implode the livelihood of large chunks of their electorate. A dynamic economy is great on paper where you don't have to worry about disrupting the lives of tens of thousands of people. Call that a political moat.

Vinnl 2y ago

> I will not buy a car that does this. Unfortunately it looks like that might be pretty hard: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/article...

Lio 2y ago
One way of looking at it is that the manufacturers are acting as a cartel to prevent anyone having access to privacy.