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> the AMS were unwilling to publish a paper by an author whose real-world identity they did not know Frankly, shameful. Editors, especially in mathematics, sho

by blfr 2y ago

> the AMS were unwilling to publish a paper by an author whose real-world identity they did not know Frankly, shameful. Editors, especially in mathematics, should be able to judge the work on its merits.

thaumasiotes 2y ago
> Editors, especially in mathematics, should be able to judge the work on its merits. It's not a mathematical paper. The AMS version is headed: > This essay incorporates with permission material from our pseudonymous colleague XOR'easter, who also contributed many suggestions during the writing process. By the extent of XOR’easter’s contributions, they would normally be credited as an author. However it was not possible in time to find a way to strictly preserve anonymity and assign legal copyright. All four contributors disagree with this exclusion. I regret its necessity — Ed.
staunton 2y ago
> Frankly, shameful. Editors, especially in mathematics, should be able to judge the work on its merits. You might end up receiving hundreds of (perhaps AI-generated) submissions every day and reviewers would just refuse to read any of it.
kurikuri 2y ago
It is less about the quality of work, but that the source itself should have some form of ‘blame.’ Plagiarism is still a risk, and the main deterrence against it is the reputation of the authors.
- slavik81 2y ago
  There are some rather important papers that were written under pseudonyms, e.g. Student (1908). "The Probable Error of a Mean"
  - cafard 2y ago
    Well, that was the policy of his employer (Guinness).
  - otoburb 2y ago
    And Nicolas Bourbaki's "Éléments de mathématique".[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Bourbaki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Bourbaki
knappa 2y ago
Not a question of merits, but of how to make sure the journal really had acquired the rights to publish the article.
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  It's not that either. If the journal couldn't make sure it had the right to publish, it wouldn't publish. Whether or not one of the coauthors is formally listed as coauthor doesn't affect the disposition of the copyright. It's a question of compliance with the journal's formal publication process.

by blfr 2y ago

thaumasiotes 2y ago

> Editors, especially in mathematics, should be able to judge the work on its merits. It's not a mathematical paper. The AMS version is headed: > This essay incorporates with permission material from our pseudonymous colleague XOR'easter, who also contributed many suggestions during the writing process. By the extent of XOR’easter’s contributions, they would normally be credited as an author. However it was not possible in time to find a way to strictly preserve anonymity and assign legal copyright. All four contributors disagree with this exclusion. I regret its necessity — Ed.

staunton 2y ago

> Frankly, shameful. Editors, especially in mathematics, should be able to judge the work on its merits. You might end up receiving hundreds of (perhaps AI-generated) submissions every day and reviewers would just refuse to read any of it.

kurikuri 2y ago

It is less about the quality of work, but that the source itself should have some form of ‘blame.’ Plagiarism is still a risk, and the main deterrence against it is the reputation of the authors.

slavik81 2y ago
There are some rather important papers that were written under pseudonyms, e.g. Student (1908). "The Probable Error of a Mean"
- cafard 2y ago
  Well, that was the policy of his employer (Guinness).
- otoburb 2y ago
  And Nicolas Bourbaki's "Éléments de mathématique".[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Bourbaki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Bourbaki

knappa 2y ago

Not a question of merits, but of how to make sure the journal really had acquired the rights to publish the article.

thaumasiotes 2y ago
It's not that either. If the journal couldn't make sure it had the right to publish, it wouldn't publish. Whether or not one of the coauthors is formally listed as coauthor doesn't affect the disposition of the copyright. It's a question of compliance with the journal's formal publication process.