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At 20k euros, would it not just be cheaper to hire some software people to jailbreak them? If companies that did this got jailbroken and blacklisted by the gov
by SR2Z 2y ago
At 20k euros, would it not just be cheaper to hire some software people to jailbreak them?
If companies that did this got jailbroken and blacklisted by the government, pretty much nobody would try this bullshit.
- None4U 2y agoThis ("software people to jailbreak them") is exactly the identity of the hackers who have been sued
- datavirtue 2y agoIt takes a lot of resources, all rooted in a lot of uncertainty. Not an option for businesses that need equipment.
- talldayo 2y ago> Not an option for businesses that need equipment. On the flip side, it can often be the only option for businesses that need equipment. The US has a longstanding trend of hacking John Deere tractors to accept third-party servicing since John Deere's first-party offerings are both expensive and often unavailable.
- seba_dos1 2y agoIt not only was an option in this case, it was the path taken when all the other options were depleted.
- pantalaimon 2y agoThat’s pretty much what happened and how this story came about
- kosma 2y agoThe company was a bit too much in bed with the government to begin with...
- atoav 2y agoThis isn't a software issue. This is a hackers-found-out-they-were-cheating-and-deactivated-their-train-DRM-and-now-these-hackers-are-getting-sued-issue. And getting sued by a train manifacturer is typically a asymmetrical battle for a private person. Consider watching the original talk (very entertaining and insightful, probably one of the best hacking related videos I watched in 2024), and if you like them toss them a tenner or so.
- trod1234 2y agoRather than Cheating, don't you mean tortuous interference, followed by vexatious litigation? When you intentionally design systems with purpose to delay, but overall sabotage, you show malice and you defraud the purchaser (after-the-fact), you also interfere with their business with third-parties, and impose coercive costs that have never been acceptable. Coercion is generally not accepted by any civilized society that still follow its original founding principles, and coercion and corruption tend to go hand-in-hand.
- majke 2y agoThe firmware would need to be certified. They mentioned that in the q&a couple of minutes ago. Apparently its a critical component.
- mx20 2y agoI remember they said in the last talk last year that there is a "cheat code" that resets the software locks, but almost every train also had slightly different software to obfuscate that they are sabotaging their competition.
- psd1 2y agoYes, although i recall it was more lack of build automation meaning not every train had every patch