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Nope, i'm saying that humans are political beings, as aristoteles defined it, and any human action is by itself political. History in itself tries (or should t
by basfo 2y ago
Nope, i'm saying that humans are political beings, as aristoteles defined it, and any human action is by itself political.
History in itself tries (or should try) to be objective and avoid the bias you mention, but that doesn't make it less political by any mean.
- andsoitis 2y ago> Nope, i'm saying that humans are political beings, as aristoteles defined it, and any human action is by itself political. Aristotle said politics is the study of how communities can achieve “the good life” through governance and organization. He said we are political animals (zoon politikon) who naturally form communities, such as the polis (city-state), to achieve common goals and virtue. The idea that any human action is political cannot be attributed to Aristotle. It is also a silly and amateur assertion — to breathe is not political, to think is not political, to eat is not political, etc.
- basfo 2y agoWell, that depends on what you eat. Do you eat meat, or are you vegan? Breathing is a physical action, so there isn’t much to debate there. However, even some physical actions—like using the bathroom—can have political or cultural dimensions. For instance, why do you use a toilet instead of a bidet, as is common in parts of Europe or South America? That choice is shaped by cultural and economic factors that influence your behavior.
- andsoitis 2y ago> For instance, why do you use a toilet instead of a bidet, Because my bathroom is too small to house a bidet. Also, a bidet and toilet don’t serve the same purpose so your example is a false choice. > Well, that depends on what you eat. Do you eat meat, or are you vegan? The choice of what to eat can reflect or engage with political and social systems, but it isn’t a political act. It is a personal act. And “to eat” is also not a political act.
- kazinator 2y agoJapan solved the problem under the constraints of no room for a bidet. You can put a Japanese style shower toilet seat on almost any toilet. Mainly the size of the bowl (front-to-back dimension) has to be suitable so that the front loop of the seat sits aligned with the porcelain.
- andsoitis 2y agoThank you. I'm well aware of the innovation in bidet and toilet technologies to assist in more hygienic defecation routines and the different environmental impact such as less toilet paper, different energy considerations, plastics, water usage, etc.
- text0404 2y agois your bathroom too small because you don't make enough money for a larger bathroom? is it because of government regulations regarding habitations? why are you living in that location? what circumstances led you to make that decision? ie, even the size of your bathroom has its own politics in the sense that it contains a history of decision making and power dynamics.
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- kazinator 2y agoI just farted; is that political? Note that absolutely nobody is around.
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- tremon 2y agohumans are political beings, as aristoteles defined it, and any human action is by itself political Do you have a direct quote for that? For me, this seems like more than a mere misunderstanding of Aristoteles' work. In Politics book 1, he already explicitly distinguishes between "oikonomike" (the household) and "politike" (the city state) as being two different spheres of engagement. So the claim that any human action is by itself political is just plain false, as actions can either be political or domestic. I struggle to think of any work where he classified mundane acts such as eating as belonging to either category, it seems out of character to me. Secondly, in Ethics Aristotle stated that he considered politics as a means to an end, not a goal in and of itself: the goal of man is to lead a morally virtuous life, and the goal of the community is to enable and enhance the moral character of its citizens. Therefore, the virtuous man engages in politics to increase the virtue of his entire community, in order to breed more virtuous men. He was also quite clear that public education was required (Politics, book 8) to mold the young into successful statesmen. Both of these seems at odds with your assertion that "humans are political beings" by default.