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Is no one suing the manufacturer for vandalizing the trains?

by lupire 2y ago

terramex 2y ago
> It was also revealed that the Polish Internal Security Agency (ABW) had, in October 2022, submitted a case against Newag regarding the abovementioned software manipulation incidents to the prosecutor's office in Nowy Sącz, which initially downplayed the incident until said findings publicly came to light, after which, the investigation was taken over by the regional prosecutor's office in Kraków on suspicion of crimes committed under Article 269 §1 and Article 286 §1 of the Polish Penal Code. > The Sejm's [Sejm is "the lower house of the bicameral parliament of Poland"] Parliamentary Committee for Combating Transport Exclusion subsequently convened three hearings regarding the abovementioned allegations on 17 January, 27 February and 26 March 2024, whose participants included representatives of the Dragon Sector team, Newag, railway operators and members of the Sejm.[19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newag#2023_revelation_of_software_sabotage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newag#2023_revelation_of_softw... I could not find any later updates in polish media.
- praptak 2y ago
  The latest update I found is [0] but there aren't any substantial updates about the criminal part of the affair. https://kolejowyportal.pl/dragon-sector-newag-wprowadza-opinie-publiczna-w-blad/ https://kolejowyportal.pl/dragon-sector-newag-wprowadza-opin...
intunderflow 2y ago
No, and frankly if the Polish government won't do anything with this overwhelming evidence then they've got the train manufacturer they deserve. You can lead a horse to water...
- nicce 2y ago
  If that will happen, maybe it is time to start following that money.
  - immibis 2y ago
    What can you do after you find where the money is flowing?
    - nicce 2y ago
      I am not familiar with Polish law about corruption or lobbying but if some politicians are getting money, that is a starting point.
      - misiek08 2y ago
        They are. Both sides that are interchangeably leading the country. Nothing really changed since at least 50+ years. Same names, same stories. Both groups did some PR moves showing police, CBA and ABW being successful catching some poor guys fighting with the system.
        hazn 2y ago
        I am an outisder to polish politics. Isn’t it the case that polish democracy is a good success story the last decade(s)? Genuine question.
pkkm 2y ago
They are being investigated, the Polish government is just slow.
1oooqooq 2y ago
instead of a defense fund for the hackers, they should start an ETF to sue the manufacturer for profits:)

Is no one suing the manufacturer for vandalizing the trains?

by lupire 2y ago

Is no one suing the manufacturer for vandalizing the trains?

> It was also revealed that the Polish Internal Security Agency (ABW) had, in October 2022, submitted a case against Newag regarding the abovementioned software manipulation incidents to the prosecutor's office in Nowy Sącz, which initially downplayed the incident until said findings publicly came to light, after which, the investigation was taken over by the regional prosecutor's office in Kraków on suspicion of crimes committed under Article 269 §1 and Article 286 §1 of the Polish Penal Code. > The Sejm's [Sejm is "the lower house of the bicameral parliament of Poland"] Parliamentary Committee for Combating Transport Exclusion subsequently convened three hearings regarding the abovementioned allegations on 17 January, 27 February and 26 March 2024, whose participants included representatives of the Dragon Sector team, Newag, railway operators and members of the Sejm.[19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newag#2023_revelation_of_software_sabotage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newag#2023_revelation_of_softw... I could not find any later updates in polish media.

praptak 2y ago
The latest update I found is [0] but there aren't any substantial updates about the criminal part of the affair. https://kolejowyportal.pl/dragon-sector-newag-wprowadza-opinie-publiczna-w-blad/ https://kolejowyportal.pl/dragon-sector-newag-wprowadza-opin...

intunderflow 2y ago

No, and frankly if the Polish government won't do anything with this overwhelming evidence then they've got the train manufacturer they deserve. You can lead a horse to water...

nicce 2y ago
If that will happen, maybe it is time to start following that money.
- immibis 2y ago
  What can you do after you find where the money is flowing?
  - nicce 2y ago
    I am not familiar with Polish law about corruption or lobbying but if some politicians are getting money, that is a starting point.
    - misiek08 2y ago
      They are. Both sides that are interchangeably leading the country. Nothing really changed since at least 50+ years. Same names, same stories. Both groups did some PR moves showing police, CBA and ABW being successful catching some poor guys fighting with the system.
      - hazn 2y ago
        I am an outisder to polish politics. Isn’t it the case that polish democracy is a good success story the last decade(s)? Genuine question.

pkkm 2y ago

They are being investigated, the Polish government is just slow.

1oooqooq 2y ago

instead of a defense fund for the hackers, they should start an ETF to sue the manufacturer for profits:)