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Could it tell the difference between a dishwasher and a picture of a dishwasher on a wall? Or one painted onto a wall? Or a toy dishwasher? There is an essenti
by magpi3 2y ago
Could it tell the difference between a dishwasher and a picture of a dishwasher on a wall? Or one painted onto a wall? Or a toy dishwasher?
There is an essential idea of what makes something a dishwasher that LLM's will never be able to grasp no matter how many models you throw at them. They would have to fundamentally understand that what they are "seeing" is an electronic appliance connected to the plumbing that washes dishes. The sound of a running dishwasher, the heat you feel when you open one, and the wet, clean dishes is also part of that understanding.
- viraptor 2y agoYes, it can tell a difference, up to the point where the boundaries are getting fuzzy. But the same thing applies to us all. Can you tell this is a dishwasher? https://www.amazon.com.au/Countertop-Dishwasher-Automatic-Vegetable-Apartments/dp/B0CLKTCVFC https://www.amazon.com.au/Countertop-Dishwasher-Automatic-Ve... Can you tell this is a drawing of a glass? https://www.deviantart.com/januarysnow13/art/Wine-Glass-Hyperrealistic-Drawing-506809946 https://www.deviantart.com/januarysnow13/art/Wine-Glass-Hype... Can you tell this is a toy? https://www.amazon.com.au/Theo-Klein-Miele-Washing-Machine/dp/B00UCK33HU https://www.amazon.com.au/Theo-Klein-Miele-Washing-Machine/d...
- magpi3 2y agoIf I am limited to looking at pictures, then I am at the same disadvantage as the LLM, sure. The point is that people can experience and understand objects from a multitude of perspectives, both with our senses and the mental models we utilize to understand the object. Can LLMs do the same?
- viraptor 2y agoThat's not a disadvantage of LLM. You can start sending images from a camera moving around and you'll get many views as well. The capabilities here are the same as the eye-brain system - it can't move independently either.
- cynicalpeace 2y agoThat's exactly the point- generally intelligent organism are not just "eye-brain systems"
- viraptor 2y agoYou really need to define what you mean by generally intelligent in that case. Otherwise, if you require free movement for generally intelligent organisms, you may be making interesting claims about bedridden people.
- cynicalpeace 2y agoBedridden people are not just eye-brain systems.