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Let them have their fun while they can, it's gonna get pretty bleak in the next 5-10 years when coding jobs are being replaced left and right by bots that can d

Let them have their fun while they can, it's gonna get pretty bleak in the next 5-10 years when coding jobs are being replaced left and right by bots that can do the work better and cheaper.

boshalfoshal 2y ago
Maybe you're retired or not a SWE or knowledge worker anymore, but I have a decent amount of concern about this future. As a society, we have not even begun to think about what happens when large swathes of the population become unemployed. Everyone says they'd love to not work, but no one says they can survive without money. Our society trades labor for money. And I have very little faith in our society or the government to alleviate this through something like UBI. Previously it was physical work that was made more efficient, but the one edge we thought we would always have as humans - our creativity and thinking skills - is also being displaced. And that too, its fairly clear that the leaders in the space (apart from maybe Anthropic?) are doing this purely from a capitalist driven profit first motivation. I for one think the world will be a worse place for a few years immediately after AGI/ASI.
asdff 2y ago
Why not just hire out of bangladesh though?
- logicchains 2y ago
  Bangladeshis don't have perfect English communication skills or work 24/7, and the most skilled engineers there have generally already moved overseas, so the only remaining ones aren't top-tier (or aren't cheap).
  - asdff 2y ago
    On the other hand you can go from concept to finished product with a bangladeshi team today. And you can’t do that with copilot. So why the risk for western devs when you can already get close enough to their quality of work for a fraction of the price, yet they still exist? Clearly there are other factors involved beyond raw cost to explain this.
fzeroracer 2y ago
People said that 5 years ago. Personally I welcome companies to try. I'll laugh all the way to the bank when they need to rehire all the talent they've laid off at a premium to fix the security holes and damage caused by LLMs. Assuming that they survive having their entire company ransacked in the first place.
- famouswaffles 2y ago
  5 years ago, GPT-2 had just been released. People were definitely not saying this 5 years ago lol.
  - hejalajsbsb 2y ago
    people have been saying that since before i even started my degree over a decade ago.

Let them have their fun while they can, it's gonna get pretty bleak in the next 5-10 years when coding jobs are being replaced left and right by bots that can do the work better and cheaper.

boshalfoshal 2y ago

Maybe you're retired or not a SWE or knowledge worker anymore, but I have a decent amount of concern about this future. As a society, we have not even begun to think about what happens when large swathes of the population become unemployed. Everyone says they'd love to not work, but no one says they can survive without money. Our society trades labor for money. And I have very little faith in our society or the government to alleviate this through something like UBI. Previously it was physical work that was made more efficient, but the one edge we thought we would always have as humans - our creativity and thinking skills - is also being displaced. And that too, its fairly clear that the leaders in the space (apart from maybe Anthropic?) are doing this purely from a capitalist driven profit first motivation. I for one think the world will be a worse place for a few years immediately after AGI/ASI.

asdff 2y ago

Why not just hire out of bangladesh though?

logicchains 2y ago
Bangladeshis don't have perfect English communication skills or work 24/7, and the most skilled engineers there have generally already moved overseas, so the only remaining ones aren't top-tier (or aren't cheap).
- asdff 2y ago
  On the other hand you can go from concept to finished product with a bangladeshi team today. And you can’t do that with copilot. So why the risk for western devs when you can already get close enough to their quality of work for a fraction of the price, yet they still exist? Clearly there are other factors involved beyond raw cost to explain this.

fzeroracer 2y ago

People said that 5 years ago. Personally I welcome companies to try. I'll laugh all the way to the bank when they need to rehire all the talent they've laid off at a premium to fix the security holes and damage caused by LLMs. Assuming that they survive having their entire company ransacked in the first place.

famouswaffles 2y ago
5 years ago, GPT-2 had just been released. People were definitely not saying this 5 years ago lol.
- hejalajsbsb 2y ago
  people have been saying that since before i even started my degree over a decade ago.