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Attestation is still a thing. You can still limit it to the Apple or Google platform authenticator.
by hooverd 2y ago
Attestation is still a thing. You can still limit it to the Apple or Google platform authenticator.
- lxgr 2y agoHave you recently tried it? Attestation was most definitely removed from Apple's implementation. For Google, there's still a (relatively obscure) way to get a non-synchronizing/non-discoverable credential (which is then by definition not a passkey!), which then supports attestation, but that's Chrome+Android specific and wouldn't work on e.g. Chrome on Windows or macOS.
- growse 2y agoI think Apple deliberately don't add any attestation data in their implementation, precisely to stop services detecting (and filtering) on the fact that it's an apple-made authenticator.
- lxgr 2y agoI'm not sure if that's the only reason: Notably, they used to support attestation back when they didn't synchronize passkeys via iCloud Keychain, as did Google for Android. They basically had two choices once they did introduce synchronization: Keep attestations around, but specifically mark synchronized credentials as "not strongly device-bound" (and risk existing relying parties not looking for that flag and drawing incorrect conclusions from receiving such an attestation statement), or get rid of it entirely. I suspect that they opted for the latter mostly because it would require a lot of work with the FIDO and WebAuthN working groups to introduce that mechanism, not out of a selfless desire to avoid a future "big tech lock-in" (where everybody allows exactly Apple and Google passkeys, but nothing else), but I could definitely see the latter consideration also playing a role.