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A MAGA 'Civil War' on X between Musk and the far right over H-1B visas

15 points by JasserInicide 2y ago

JasserInicide 2y ago
https://archive.is/n4g7G https://archive.is/n4g7G
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fullshark 2y ago
Writing about twitter debates between marginal MAGA figures, is this the next four years of "democracy dies in darkness?"
hunglee2 2y ago
It was never 'legal vs illegal' nor is it about skilled vs unskilled - these were always imperfect proxies for the real debate, which is white vs non-white immigration. Trump is incredibly crude, but he at least does not have (or perhaps, care for) the sophistry to disguise his preferences: Norwegians please, not people from 'sh1thole' countries. This is broadly the position of the nativist right, whilst Musk and the SV tech CEO's are capitalists at heart, so don't really care other being able to hire who they want when they want, insulated as they are to every other consideration outside of company success. Masks are off, for both sides
- billy99k 2y ago
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  - cherry_tree 2y ago
    >This isn't true at all. Please show proof. Where is your proof that it isnt true? >it's more about skilled and un-skilled immigration. Where is the proof for this statement? >immigrants that come here and become burdens on the system Where is your source for this statement? Can you show how it is correlated with skilled vs unskilled labor? >people that will only use these services and never pay for them. Where is your source for this claim of immigrants not contributing to the tax system? >argument usually stops here It would be impossible to have an argument, you have done nothing but state baseless claims with no sources or evidence
- hsyehbeidhh 2y ago
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rawgabbit 2y ago
I was expecting this. This is the only reason why Musk buttered up Trump. Trump would have abolished H1B and ended Musk’s workforce. I find the H1B argument farcical. If Americans are so bad why don’t these companies simply outsource it all to Indian IT firms? Nope. What they want is slave labor. Musk and the tech elite are loudly proclaiming I got mine, screw all of you.

15 points by JasserInicide 2y ago

JasserInicide 2y ago

https://archive.is/n4g7G https://archive.is/n4g7G

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fullshark 2y ago

Writing about twitter debates between marginal MAGA figures, is this the next four years of "democracy dies in darkness?"

hunglee2 2y ago

It was never 'legal vs illegal' nor is it about skilled vs unskilled - these were always imperfect proxies for the real debate, which is white vs non-white immigration. Trump is incredibly crude, but he at least does not have (or perhaps, care for) the sophistry to disguise his preferences: Norwegians please, not people from 'sh1thole' countries. This is broadly the position of the nativist right, whilst Musk and the SV tech CEO's are capitalists at heart, so don't really care other being able to hire who they want when they want, insulated as they are to every other consideration outside of company success. Masks are off, for both sides

billy99k 2y ago
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- cherry_tree 2y ago
  >This isn't true at all. Please show proof. Where is your proof that it isnt true? >it's more about skilled and un-skilled immigration. Where is the proof for this statement? >immigrants that come here and become burdens on the system Where is your source for this statement? Can you show how it is correlated with skilled vs unskilled labor? >people that will only use these services and never pay for them. Where is your source for this claim of immigrants not contributing to the tax system? >argument usually stops here It would be impossible to have an argument, you have done nothing but state baseless claims with no sources or evidence
hsyehbeidhh 2y ago
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rawgabbit 2y ago

I was expecting this. This is the only reason why Musk buttered up Trump. Trump would have abolished H1B and ended Musk’s workforce. I find the H1B argument farcical. If Americans are so bad why don’t these companies simply outsource it all to Indian IT firms? Nope. What they want is slave labor. Musk and the tech elite are loudly proclaiming I got mine, screw all of you.