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Musk says China rocks. Musk says the Chinese are smart and hard working whereas Americans are complacent and entitled, especially Californians and New Yorkers:

Musk says China rocks. Musk says the Chinese are smart and hard working whereas Americans are complacent and entitled, especially Californians and New Yorkers: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-china-rocks-us-full-of-entitlement.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-china-ro...

moosedman 2y ago
How would he even know, it's not like tech firms are even giving recent American graduates a shot. They hire H1B because it creates a dependency on the company.
- bigfatkitten 2y ago
  There's no shortage of suitably skilled American candidates for software engineering positions, especially in the current job market. Companies have manufactured the illusion of a shortage to enable industrial scale visa fraud.
  - ritcgab 2y ago
    There is no shortage of US candidates but there is a shortage of qualified US candidates. Getting an engineering degree from an average US college doesn't mean you are a qualified engineer. In fact, most new graduates know absolutely nothing about software engineering. It's just the market is so bad now and those tech giants don't want to give them a shot. So many experienced engineers on the job market right now. Why hiring a new grad?
    - bigfatkitten 2y ago
      The software engineering field is largely "engineering" in name only. Very few jurisdictions globally recognise software engineers as qualified engineers, but that's a separate issue.
      - ritcgab 2y ago
        I agree with you, and the same also applies to the other parts of the world. So the question comes down to: why so many kids are failed by our colleges. I am pretty sure those tech giants actually pay more for H-1B workers.
ttyprintk 2y ago
Doing business in China means restraining from criticizing China: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42513666 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42513666 Doing business in the West means helpfully criticizing pro-labor politics here.

moosedman 2y ago

How would he even know, it's not like tech firms are even giving recent American graduates a shot. They hire H1B because it creates a dependency on the company.

bigfatkitten 2y ago
There's no shortage of suitably skilled American candidates for software engineering positions, especially in the current job market. Companies have manufactured the illusion of a shortage to enable industrial scale visa fraud.
- ritcgab 2y ago
  There is no shortage of US candidates but there is a shortage of qualified US candidates. Getting an engineering degree from an average US college doesn't mean you are a qualified engineer. In fact, most new graduates know absolutely nothing about software engineering. It's just the market is so bad now and those tech giants don't want to give them a shot. So many experienced engineers on the job market right now. Why hiring a new grad?
  - bigfatkitten 2y ago
    The software engineering field is largely "engineering" in name only. Very few jurisdictions globally recognise software engineers as qualified engineers, but that's a separate issue.
    - ritcgab 2y ago
      I agree with you, and the same also applies to the other parts of the world. So the question comes down to: why so many kids are failed by our colleges. I am pretty sure those tech giants actually pay more for H-1B workers.

ttyprintk 2y ago

Doing business in China means restraining from criticizing China: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42513666 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42513666 Doing business in the West means helpfully criticizing pro-labor politics here.