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> by companies with a fraction of OpenAIs resources. Meta and Google are orders of magnitude greater than OpenAI and they're the only contenders that have chal

> by companies with a fraction of OpenAIs resources. Meta and Google are orders of magnitude greater than OpenAI and they're the only contenders that have challenged GPT models. > But what about Mistral et al? They are not even near GPT-4o. Good gpt-3.5-turbo alt tho.

fragmede 2y ago
Claude by Anthropic outperforms OpenAI and Meta's models on several benchmarks and for the coding I do, and Anthropic is only 500-1000 people according to Crunch base
do_not_redeem 2y ago
You might be interested in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42514633 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42514633 In fairness, OpenAI has been leading benchmarks for the most part, but open source is never more than 3-6 months behind.
- dylan604 2y ago
  Just because some one has a slightly better product doesn’t mean they have a monopoly. That’s like saying McDonalds has a monopoly because they have better fries. It’s just not true in any part of the statement
  - ipaddr 2y ago
    They have a monopoly on the name McDonalds. If McDonalds had a fry machine and lobbied that making fries anyone other way was dangerous and only they should be allowed to use the fry machine that would more align with this situation. It's not a monopoly but trying hard to get a government based one.
    - dylan604 2y ago
      You're stretching so far to attempt to make a point you're now trying to equate a trade mark as a monopoly. These are totally different concepts and you've totally lost the plot with this analogy
      - ipaddr 2y ago
        McDonald's is considered an oligopoly, where a few firms dominate an industry and can set prices. McDonald's is not a monopoly because it doesn't sell a single unique good.
aprilthird2021 2y ago
But not even near X SOTA model doesn't matter to 99% of people because 99% of people don't need or care about the difference. It's like sure Porsche / Ferrari makes a car that can hit insane top speeds really fast on a track, but 99% of people don't drive in such a manner where that matters. In that analogy though, everyday cars aren't free, so profit possibility is even less in OAI case than the supercar case

fragmede 2y ago

Claude by Anthropic outperforms OpenAI and Meta's models on several benchmarks and for the coding I do, and Anthropic is only 500-1000 people according to Crunch base

do_not_redeem 2y ago

You might be interested in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42514633 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42514633 In fairness, OpenAI has been leading benchmarks for the most part, but open source is never more than 3-6 months behind.

dylan604 2y ago
Just because some one has a slightly better product doesn’t mean they have a monopoly. That’s like saying McDonalds has a monopoly because they have better fries. It’s just not true in any part of the statement
- ipaddr 2y ago
  They have a monopoly on the name McDonalds. If McDonalds had a fry machine and lobbied that making fries anyone other way was dangerous and only they should be allowed to use the fry machine that would more align with this situation. It's not a monopoly but trying hard to get a government based one.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    You're stretching so far to attempt to make a point you're now trying to equate a trade mark as a monopoly. These are totally different concepts and you've totally lost the plot with this analogy
    - ipaddr 2y ago
      McDonald's is considered an oligopoly, where a few firms dominate an industry and can set prices. McDonald's is not a monopoly because it doesn't sell a single unique good.

aprilthird2021 2y ago

But not even near X SOTA model doesn't matter to 99% of people because 99% of people don't need or care about the difference. It's like sure Porsche / Ferrari makes a car that can hit insane top speeds really fast on a track, but 99% of people don't drive in such a manner where that matters. In that analogy though, everyday cars aren't free, so profit possibility is even less in OAI case than the supercar case