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I don't understand why we are making handcuff with keys. Wouldn't it be better to have cuffs that lock but can't be unlocked. The only way to get them off would

I don't understand why we are making handcuff with keys. Wouldn't it be better to have cuffs that lock but can't be unlocked. The only way to get them off would be to destroy them. Think zip ties that are structurally stronger. Maybe the destruction method would be something like UV light to melt the cuffs. Is it so important that we have re-usable cuffs?

crusso 14y ago
Think zip ties that are structurally stronger. Zip ties themselves are easily circumvented with a razor. If stronger, how much stronger? Do you need heavy-duty bolt cutters to get them off? UV light to melt the cuffs. Wouldn't a UV light source then be an easily-producible key?
- michaelbuckbee 14y ago
  You don't even need a razor, in the video below a teenage girl is able to pop them off her wrists with applied force: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfmOD5jImOs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfmOD5jImOs
  - maxerickson 14y ago
    Law enforcement already use zip ties that are quite a bit more robust looking than the ones in that video. And they do nasty things like putting your hands behind your back.
    - pavel_lishin 14y ago
      The last time I was handcuffed, I was able to bring my hands around to the front fairly trivially, so I could fasten my seatbelt. Although, those were metal cuffs so I could maneuver my wrists independently.
      - crusso 14y ago
        The last time I was handcuffed Party at Pavel's house!
- eumenides1 14y ago
  I was thinking like 3/4 to 1/2 inch tubes of solid plastic. So maybe heavy-duty bolt cutters would be a good idea to get them off. The crux of the idea is that only way to get the cuffs off is to break the cuff with a specific brute force that requires a large unconcealable device. Even with the device, you still need time/space to use it (5-10 mins). So pretend that we would need a large UV lamp and 5 mins to melt through.
  - ishkur101 14y ago
    If the cuffs cannot be reused then costs go up. If costs go up I pay more tax to cover this.

crusso 14y ago

Think zip ties that are structurally stronger. Zip ties themselves are easily circumvented with a razor. If stronger, how much stronger? Do you need heavy-duty bolt cutters to get them off? UV light to melt the cuffs. Wouldn't a UV light source then be an easily-producible key?

michaelbuckbee 14y ago
You don't even need a razor, in the video below a teenage girl is able to pop them off her wrists with applied force: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfmOD5jImOs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfmOD5jImOs
- maxerickson 14y ago
  Law enforcement already use zip ties that are quite a bit more robust looking than the ones in that video. And they do nasty things like putting your hands behind your back.
  - pavel_lishin 14y ago
    The last time I was handcuffed, I was able to bring my hands around to the front fairly trivially, so I could fasten my seatbelt. Although, those were metal cuffs so I could maneuver my wrists independently.
    - crusso 14y ago
      The last time I was handcuffed Party at Pavel's house!
eumenides1 14y ago
I was thinking like 3/4 to 1/2 inch tubes of solid plastic. So maybe heavy-duty bolt cutters would be a good idea to get them off. The crux of the idea is that only way to get the cuffs off is to break the cuff with a specific brute force that requires a large unconcealable device. Even with the device, you still need time/space to use it (5-10 mins). So pretend that we would need a large UV lamp and 5 mins to melt through.
- ishkur101 14y ago
  If the cuffs cannot be reused then costs go up. If costs go up I pay more tax to cover this.