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They're not being ignored, but neither are they starting a thermonuclear war over it. NATO is walking a knife edge of low intensity conflict, trying to avoid t

They're not being ignored, but neither are they starting a thermonuclear war over it. NATO is walking a knife edge of low intensity conflict, trying to avoid the two disasters of Russia steamrolling eastern Europe and/or total war that probably leads to a nuclear exchange.

lazide 2y ago
You really probably want to read up on what Chamberlain was actually doing before the war.
- lupusreal 2y ago
  You really need to get off reddit and get a grip is you think NATO's approach to the Russian threat is comparable to Chamberlain. Thank goodness much smarter and more levelheaded people than you are calling the shots, trying to avoid the sort of cataclysmic disaster you would boldly walk right into.
  - mopsi 2y ago
    There's nothing smart about the current approach. The snowball keeps getting larger and larger. What started with "little green men" in Crimea in 2014 has snowballed into a war that has razed entire cities, turned millions into refugees, killed hundreds of thousands of people, and contaminated vast areas for centuries, as Iranian missiles rain on European cities and North Korean slaves kill Europeans in their home - with no end in sight. The unwillingness to take a stand and make a credible threat of nuclear exchange unless Russians get out of Ukraine has only invited further attacks on Europe. In practical terms, the foolish "escalation management" serves no other purpose than giving the initiative to Russians. By knowing that NATO will try to defuse any dangerous situation, they can safely keep tuning the temperature to their liking. The most level-headed people have warned about this for a long time.
  - Gud 2y ago
    The people calling the shots are the same people who have been dismantling Europes militaries, during a time when Russia has invaded two European countries(Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014). They are not particularly level headed, unless level headed has changed meaning to "stupid".
    - lazide 2y ago
      They are trying to avoid war. And so, inevitably, war is what they will get.

lazide 2y ago

You really probably want to read up on what Chamberlain was actually doing before the war.

lupusreal 2y ago
You really need to get off reddit and get a grip is you think NATO's approach to the Russian threat is comparable to Chamberlain. Thank goodness much smarter and more levelheaded people than you are calling the shots, trying to avoid the sort of cataclysmic disaster you would boldly walk right into.
- mopsi 2y ago
  There's nothing smart about the current approach. The snowball keeps getting larger and larger. What started with "little green men" in Crimea in 2014 has snowballed into a war that has razed entire cities, turned millions into refugees, killed hundreds of thousands of people, and contaminated vast areas for centuries, as Iranian missiles rain on European cities and North Korean slaves kill Europeans in their home - with no end in sight. The unwillingness to take a stand and make a credible threat of nuclear exchange unless Russians get out of Ukraine has only invited further attacks on Europe. In practical terms, the foolish "escalation management" serves no other purpose than giving the initiative to Russians. By knowing that NATO will try to defuse any dangerous situation, they can safely keep tuning the temperature to their liking. The most level-headed people have warned about this for a long time.
- Gud 2y ago
  The people calling the shots are the same people who have been dismantling Europes militaries, during a time when Russia has invaded two European countries(Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014). They are not particularly level headed, unless level headed has changed meaning to "stupid".
  - lazide 2y ago
    They are trying to avoid war. And so, inevitably, war is what they will get.