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Why did you chose gonic over navidrome[1]? My stack [2] is: navidrome (music - subsonic server) substreamer (app) beets (music organization) EAC (audio

Why did you chose gonic over navidrome[1]? My stack [2] is: navidrome (music - subsonic server) substreamer (app) beets (music organization) EAC (audio cd ripping) audiobookshelf (audiobooks) Most important part of navidrome are smart playlists[3], with these I didn't need AI support just yet... 1: https://www.navidrome.org/ https://www.navidrome.org/ 2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40470630 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40470630 3: https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome/issues/1417 https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome/issues/1417

tehmantra 2y ago
+1 for navidrome. I’ve had better luck with the play:Sub app (iOS). I think it’s important that these servers use a common API (subsonic), but it seems like the slickest apps are always targeted to one specific backend (plexamp, finamp, prism music).
ccakes 2y ago
I did try Navidrome and used it for a while.. I honestly don't remember why I switched but I suspect the reason was probably more related to the client I was using at the same (Submariner on macOS) than the server-side.
majkinetor 2y ago
I have chosen jelly over it because of the way navi stores music. I prefer to organize music in folders myself, and tag them with picard. Jelly then just shows everything nicely with 0 configuration.
- vladvasiliu 2y ago
  Navidrome can work with your folder layout, too. I don't remember why I settled on Navidrome instead of the others, but I basically just told it "here's my music, now go play me something" and it all just worked. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't manage organization at all.
  - AndrewDavis 2y ago
    > Navidrome can work with your folder layout, too. Is that recent? When I was looking to replace libresonic I looked at Navidrome and it couldn't do that, and the developer indicated they didnt have plans to add that feature. I also settled on Gonic. Mostly for this reason.
    - vladvasiliu 2y ago
      Do you mean "browse using your folder layout" as in "show that layout in the UI" as opposed to browsing by artist / album / playlist? If that's the case, indeed, it doesn't seem to support that. I thought you were talking about the actual on-disk organization, like iTunes would import and rearrange the files to its standard.
      - majkinetor 2y ago
        Yes, that! Thanks for the clarification.
    - antihero 2y ago
      I've used navidrome since the beginning with my own layout, you just mount the folder in the container and it goes and indexes it.
      - georgebcrawford 2y ago
        It indexes based on tags. You could theoretically have every file in one folder and still browse by artist/album/genre etc.
  - majkinetor 2y ago
    Thats why I choosed Jelly. I do prepare music file a lot, so that is expected, but movies and series I do not and it works great to recognize them 99% of the time.
- itm 2y ago
  https://github.com/epoupon/lms https://github.com/epoupon/lms is another (Open)Subsonic compatible server that supports directory browsing commands. But actually few clients use them.
  - internet_points 2y ago
    I've been using https://github.com/sentriz/gonic https://github.com/sentriz/gonic – how does lms compare to other (open)subsonic servers?
    - itm 2y ago
      Well you can have some comparison here: https://github.com/basings/selfhosted-music-overview https://github.com/basings/selfhosted-music-overview From what I know lms has more artist relationships (composers, conductors, etc.), but it lacks last.fm integration and jukebox mode.
Ardakilic 2y ago
Another +1 for navidrome. I use along with play:sub on ios, and feishin with desktop , and couldn't be happier. I also use Lidarr for PVR needs
skydhash 2y ago
I didn’t need a web client and Gonic shows the actual directory layout for the folder API. I have a few albums that requires gapless playback and most web players can’t accommodate them. My music library layout is mostly ‘collection/album-key/track-key.ext’ where album-key is something that uniquely identifies the album and make it easy to search for. For my main collection it’s’artist - year - album’ while for others it can be just ‘year - album’. Gonic shows the same layout to clients.
- sandreas 2y ago
  I think the folder structure like browsing is the main reason to ditch navidrome... While I get the point, this is not an issue for my use case. What I would love to see though is a "sync playlist to path" button in the web interface where it keeps the original folder structure. With this i could create partial lib dumps for my car usb stick or my family members. Maybe i submit an issue for this.

tehmantra 2y ago

+1 for navidrome. I’ve had better luck with the play:Sub app (iOS). I think it’s important that these servers use a common API (subsonic), but it seems like the slickest apps are always targeted to one specific backend (plexamp, finamp, prism music).

ccakes 2y ago

I did try Navidrome and used it for a while.. I honestly don't remember why I switched but I suspect the reason was probably more related to the client I was using at the same (Submariner on macOS) than the server-side.

majkinetor 2y ago

I have chosen jelly over it because of the way navi stores music. I prefer to organize music in folders myself, and tag them with picard. Jelly then just shows everything nicely with 0 configuration.

vladvasiliu 2y ago
Navidrome can work with your folder layout, too. I don't remember why I settled on Navidrome instead of the others, but I basically just told it "here's my music, now go play me something" and it all just worked. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't manage organization at all.
- AndrewDavis 2y ago
  > Navidrome can work with your folder layout, too. Is that recent? When I was looking to replace libresonic I looked at Navidrome and it couldn't do that, and the developer indicated they didnt have plans to add that feature. I also settled on Gonic. Mostly for this reason.
  - vladvasiliu 2y ago
    Do you mean "browse using your folder layout" as in "show that layout in the UI" as opposed to browsing by artist / album / playlist? If that's the case, indeed, it doesn't seem to support that. I thought you were talking about the actual on-disk organization, like iTunes would import and rearrange the files to its standard.
    - majkinetor 2y ago
      Yes, that! Thanks for the clarification.
  - antihero 2y ago
    I've used navidrome since the beginning with my own layout, you just mount the folder in the container and it goes and indexes it.
    - georgebcrawford 2y ago
      It indexes based on tags. You could theoretically have every file in one folder and still browse by artist/album/genre etc.
- majkinetor 2y ago
  Thats why I choosed Jelly. I do prepare music file a lot, so that is expected, but movies and series I do not and it works great to recognize them 99% of the time.
itm 2y ago
https://github.com/epoupon/lms https://github.com/epoupon/lms is another (Open)Subsonic compatible server that supports directory browsing commands. But actually few clients use them.
- internet_points 2y ago
  I've been using https://github.com/sentriz/gonic https://github.com/sentriz/gonic – how does lms compare to other (open)subsonic servers?
  - itm 2y ago
    Well you can have some comparison here: https://github.com/basings/selfhosted-music-overview https://github.com/basings/selfhosted-music-overview From what I know lms has more artist relationships (composers, conductors, etc.), but it lacks last.fm integration and jukebox mode.

Ardakilic 2y ago

Another +1 for navidrome. I use along with play:sub on ios, and feishin with desktop , and couldn't be happier. I also use Lidarr for PVR needs

skydhash 2y ago

I didn’t need a web client and Gonic shows the actual directory layout for the folder API. I have a few albums that requires gapless playback and most web players can’t accommodate them. My music library layout is mostly ‘collection/album-key/track-key.ext’ where album-key is something that uniquely identifies the album and make it easy to search for. For my main collection it’s’artist - year - album’ while for others it can be just ‘year - album’. Gonic shows the same layout to clients.

sandreas 2y ago
I think the folder structure like browsing is the main reason to ditch navidrome... While I get the point, this is not an issue for my use case. What I would love to see though is a "sync playlist to path" button in the web interface where it keeps the original folder structure. With this i could create partial lib dumps for my car usb stick or my family members. Maybe i submit an issue for this.