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This looks like a cheap shack house inside an old mall and it's also incredibly small. Value for money is ridiculous. The tenant also doesn't seem very happy wi

by csomar 2y ago

This looks like a cheap shack house inside an old mall and it's also incredibly small. Value for money is ridiculous. The tenant also doesn't seem very happy with it and only accepting the situation because alternatives are more expensive. You don't need apartments inside a mall. You can a building on top of the mall a 20 story building and have the mall on the first floors. This way the tenants can enjoy full and real apartments while the convenience of the mall is one elevator ride away. This is not some sci-fi shit, many places in Asia are doing it. The situation in the US is going from sad to pathetic.

mcny 2y ago
> You can a building on top of the mall a 20 story building and have the mall on the first floors. This way the tenants can enjoy full and real apartments while the convenience of the mall is one elevator ride away. Absolutely. For anywhere other than the biggest cities, I suspect you don't even need twenty stories if you have enough of these buildings that are about eight to ten stories above the tall first floor for retail AND an excellent public transit infrastructure so you don't need parking lots. I think the big problem is people don't want bad public transit to replace cars and are rightly skeptical of any plans that promises good results long term after an initial period of pain where we don't have parking space but we also don't have an excellent public transit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-use_development https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-use_development
Dracophoenix 2y ago
> You can a building on top of the mall a 20 story building and have the mall on the first floors. This way the tenants can enjoy full and real apartments while the convenience of the mall is one elevator ride away. Even in Asia, those residential mall complexes usually house very expensive luxury apartments.
- csomar 2y ago
  > Even in Asia, those residential mall complexes usually house very expensive luxury apartments. No. Some of them are expensive. Most of them are middle-class.
lazyasciiart 2y ago
I believe you have to build those apartments at the same time as the mall, no?
tuna74 2y ago
This is about converting an already existing mall into something more profitable and productive. If there is not demand for retail space you can convert that into housing instead. It is not "perfect" housing, but it is better than staying vacant.

by csomar 2y ago

mcny 2y ago

> You can a building on top of the mall a 20 story building and have the mall on the first floors. This way the tenants can enjoy full and real apartments while the convenience of the mall is one elevator ride away. Absolutely. For anywhere other than the biggest cities, I suspect you don't even need twenty stories if you have enough of these buildings that are about eight to ten stories above the tall first floor for retail AND an excellent public transit infrastructure so you don't need parking lots. I think the big problem is people don't want bad public transit to replace cars and are rightly skeptical of any plans that promises good results long term after an initial period of pain where we don't have parking space but we also don't have an excellent public transit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-use_development https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-use_development

Dracophoenix 2y ago

csomar 2y ago
> Even in Asia, those residential mall complexes usually house very expensive luxury apartments. No. Some of them are expensive. Most of them are middle-class.

lazyasciiart 2y ago

I believe you have to build those apartments at the same time as the mall, no?

tuna74 2y ago

This is about converting an already existing mall into something more profitable and productive. If there is not demand for retail space you can convert that into housing instead. It is not "perfect" housing, but it is better than staying vacant.