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i know we do non tech news as well but this doesn’t seem notable or interesting enough to qualify. maybe an article about the history of jury nullification woul

i know we do non tech news as well but this doesn’t seem notable or interesting enough to qualify. maybe an article about the history of jury nullification would be better

OmarShehata 2y ago
the interesting part is the ramifications of propaganda on the justice system. This is a very concrete example of how you can interfere with the rule of law if you can sway public opinion enough on an issue (this is true regardless of whether you believe the zeitgeist on luigi is organic or not). It's a dynamic more of us should be aware of. The public generally has more agency than we realize.
- Brian_K_White 2y ago
  Public opinion IS an intentional and legitimate part of the rule of law in the US. That is why the jury is composed of peers, and has the ultimate veto power. That's not interfering with the rule of law, it's conducting it. Interfering would be the insurance companies using money to buy public opinion.
  - noprocrasted 2y ago
    > Interfering would be the insurance companies using money to buy public opinion. Which is very likely happening. I read that there are two manifestos going around, one real and one fake. The real one is much easier to get behind and sympathize with than the fake one. Yet somehow the fake one is being published in most places and publications refuse to answer the question as to why they're refusing to publish the real one.
  - jdenning 2y ago
    > … insurance companies using money to buy public opinion Or using money to buy politicians to bring federal terrorism charges. Though it’s probably covered by the payments they’ve made already
  - cr125rider 2y ago
    Exactly. In elections, politics and policy are too complicated for the average voter. Being likable goes an incredibly long way.
plorkyeran 2y ago
Well we do have one of the highest-karma posters on the site continuing to insist on every single thread that Luigi doesn't have widespread support and anyone who thinks he does is in an echo chamber...
- Freedom2 2y ago
  I think it's important to not call out individual users, as that doesn't really facilitate the "curious" discussion that we as a community aspire to achieve every day.
  - relaxing 2y ago
    Is this sarcasm? Continually repeating the same specious argument because you’re a partisan ideologue isn’t fostering intellectual curiosity.
- BillyTheMage 2y ago
  As an anecdote, every single person I've talked to in-person wholeheartedly supports Luigi and believes executing the parasites until they stop using us as machinery is a good thing.
muchosandwich 2y ago
From a tech perspective I think it's interesting how social media is going to affect this case. The jury problem is absolutely a function of bottom-up memefication versus old tech centralized broadcasting with a bunch of other factors sprinkled in.

i know we do non tech news as well but this doesn’t seem notable or interesting enough to qualify. maybe an article about the history of jury nullification would be better

OmarShehata 2y ago

the interesting part is the ramifications of propaganda on the justice system. This is a very concrete example of how you can interfere with the rule of law if you can sway public opinion enough on an issue (this is true regardless of whether you believe the zeitgeist on luigi is organic or not). It's a dynamic more of us should be aware of. The public generally has more agency than we realize.

Brian_K_White 2y ago
Public opinion IS an intentional and legitimate part of the rule of law in the US. That is why the jury is composed of peers, and has the ultimate veto power. That's not interfering with the rule of law, it's conducting it. Interfering would be the insurance companies using money to buy public opinion.
- noprocrasted 2y ago
  > Interfering would be the insurance companies using money to buy public opinion. Which is very likely happening. I read that there are two manifestos going around, one real and one fake. The real one is much easier to get behind and sympathize with than the fake one. Yet somehow the fake one is being published in most places and publications refuse to answer the question as to why they're refusing to publish the real one.
- jdenning 2y ago
  > … insurance companies using money to buy public opinion Or using money to buy politicians to bring federal terrorism charges. Though it’s probably covered by the payments they’ve made already
- cr125rider 2y ago
  Exactly. In elections, politics and policy are too complicated for the average voter. Being likable goes an incredibly long way.

plorkyeran 2y ago

Well we do have one of the highest-karma posters on the site continuing to insist on every single thread that Luigi doesn't have widespread support and anyone who thinks he does is in an echo chamber...

Freedom2 2y ago
I think it's important to not call out individual users, as that doesn't really facilitate the "curious" discussion that we as a community aspire to achieve every day.
- relaxing 2y ago
  Is this sarcasm? Continually repeating the same specious argument because you’re a partisan ideologue isn’t fostering intellectual curiosity.
BillyTheMage 2y ago
As an anecdote, every single person I've talked to in-person wholeheartedly supports Luigi and believes executing the parasites until they stop using us as machinery is a good thing.

muchosandwich 2y ago

From a tech perspective I think it's interesting how social media is going to affect this case. The jury problem is absolutely a function of bottom-up memefication versus old tech centralized broadcasting with a bunch of other factors sprinkled in.