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I'm Muslim too and I always find it interesting to see how various non-Christian theists observe Christmas. Obviously we don't "celebrate" but I personally don'
by abustamam 2y ago
I'm Muslim too and I always find it interesting to see how various non-Christian theists observe Christmas. Obviously we don't "celebrate" but I personally don't see anything wrong with partaking in the secular parts of Christmas (and let's be real, in the west, it's pretty much all secular).
My parents felt otherwise when I was growing up, so my siblings and I weren't allowed to do anything Christmas related, but now my wife and I would do seasonal things like watch a live performance of Nutcracker or Pentatonix or TSO. And can't forget about watching the holiday classic movies like Elf and Die Hard!
- sgt 2y agoI spoke to a muslim who basically just "gave in" and started doing Christmas at home because the kids wanted it. With the tree and Xmas presents etc even.
- abustamam 2y agoYeah that's probably more common than you might expect. My mom is a teacher at an Islamic school and some of her 1st graders would often say stuff like "we have a Christmas tree at home but my mom told me not to tell anyone," which might give you an idea of how Muslims view Christmas. It's not something I personally want to do for my family, but I don't think any less of families that do that.
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- footy 2y agoThis is a weird and kind of rude thing to say to someone.
- bloomingeek 2y agoIndeed, the site rules infer not to be too argumentative. It's also a simple rule of being compassionate.
- ricardobeat 2y agoWhy do you bother coming to a Christmas related thread just to spew radical religious beliefs? Happy holidays I guess.
- Aloha 2y agoI will argue that in the US Christmas is in part a secular holiday - given its sorta pagan origins that makes total sense to me. It's a solstice feast basically.
- lolinder 2y agoThe pagan origins thing is a myth, btw—all the various bits which people point to as evidence still date back to a Christian-era Europe and cannot be traced back further. Christianity has been around for a very very long time and has had a lot of time to evolve its own traditions. :) For example, Christmas trees date back no later than the middle ages: https://youtube.com/watch?v=m41KXS-LWsY https://youtube.com/watch?v=m41KXS-LWsY
- sbuk 2y agoNonsense. You're conflating tradition (tree in this case) with festivals and ancient religious rites. See: - Yule - Dísablót - Koliada - Lohri - Saturnalia - Yaldā Night - Nardoqan
- lolinder 2y agoNo, I'm not. All of these are, to the extent we know about them at all (which in some cases we don't know much), entirely unlike any Christmas traditions we have today which are claimed to be pagan in origin.
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- satvikpendem 2y agoHow do you know Christmas simply didn't align itself to those holidays themselves, because after all, a year end winter feast is nothing new in history? Or that the traditions we have today may have at once been part of such syncreticization but then died out until the modern day? In other words we don't necessarily have to see such traditions today per se for Christmas to have absorbed them over its time.
- rat87 2y agoThe Soviet Union cancelled Christmas then later took the secular parts of Christmas (New Year's tree,a Santa like figure Ded Moroz/Grandfather Frost was original some sort of pagan slavic mystical figure before somehow being molded into a very Santa Claus character) and moved it to New Year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novy_God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novy_God Soviet style New Year's is still celebrated in a number of post Soviet countries including I believe to some extent in some of the Muslim ones. It's also celebrated by post Soviet Jews in Israel and to some extent the US. Although the recent full scale invasion on Ukraine might effect popularity due to it's Soviet association.