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Did I misunderstand what is going on, or is this basically just saying "move the camera around to see behind the object"? Edit: s/camera/sensor/ if that clarif

Did I misunderstand what is going on, or is this basically just saying "move the camera around to see behind the object"? Edit: s/camera/sensor/ if that clarifies

4gotunameagain 2y ago
It is, with extra projection steps. I believe it is called the "clickbait projection" in mathematics. But yea, it is an interesting video and topic.
maury91 2y ago
You can visualize it easily if you think about your own vision. If you put an hand in from of your face ( without covering your eyes ) you will be able to see behind it even if both eyes see only a part of what is behind your hand. Now regarding the video imagine that each pixel is an eye, and they are spreaded evenly along a circle. There are a lot of differences between this example and what he actually did, but it should be very easy to visualize ( main difference I can think of is how much amplification he needed to do so each eye is almost blind )
ozim 2y ago
Not exactly as he emulates different lenses. Notice his device is always facing forward and it doesn’t turn to side to get pixel data so you would expect to get an image from what is exactly in front of the sensor. But it is not in case where he sets it when making picture “behind”.
- lilyball 2y ago
  Isn't that what the mirror is for, to change the angle of light captured?
- shawa_a_a 2y ago
  This isn’t exactly the case. The camera has an actuating mirror on the end of the rotating arm that allows it to point at arbitrary angles. https://youtu.be/aXfTgCCsRSg https://youtu.be/aXfTgCCsRSg (T=4:30) The emulating different lenses part is that with this setup you can parametrically collect specific rays bouncing off the object (presumably the angle of the mirror with respect to radius), and the resulting image will be the same as you’d get from a lens with those parameters.
furyofantares 2y ago
Same reaction here but with a little more thought I give it more credit. The resulting image looks like you're looking at the subject head-on from a point behind the wall. It doesn't look like you're peeking over the wall at some angle. The actual video doesn't have this headline, the clickbait comes from this article that doesn't really add anything over the video. It's clearly referencing the part of the video where says "sees around walls", but actually that is more accurate anyway compared to "sees behind walls" because it does see all around the wall. The ring lens characterization in the video is even better at not setting a weird expectation. The video itself is wonderful regardless. I thought the ignored and reversed perspective shots were amazing.
- dataflow 2y ago
  Thanks, I didn't have a chance to watch the video, I just read the article. I'll have to take a look at it later.

Did I misunderstand what is going on, or is this basically just saying "move the camera around to see behind the object"? Edit: s/camera/sensor/ if that clarifies

4gotunameagain 2y ago

It is, with extra projection steps. I believe it is called the "clickbait projection" in mathematics. But yea, it is an interesting video and topic.

maury91 2y ago

You can visualize it easily if you think about your own vision. If you put an hand in from of your face ( without covering your eyes ) you will be able to see behind it even if both eyes see only a part of what is behind your hand. Now regarding the video imagine that each pixel is an eye, and they are spreaded evenly along a circle. There are a lot of differences between this example and what he actually did, but it should be very easy to visualize ( main difference I can think of is how much amplification he needed to do so each eye is almost blind )

ozim 2y ago

Not exactly as he emulates different lenses. Notice his device is always facing forward and it doesn’t turn to side to get pixel data so you would expect to get an image from what is exactly in front of the sensor. But it is not in case where he sets it when making picture “behind”.

lilyball 2y ago
Isn't that what the mirror is for, to change the angle of light captured?
shawa_a_a 2y ago
This isn’t exactly the case. The camera has an actuating mirror on the end of the rotating arm that allows it to point at arbitrary angles. https://youtu.be/aXfTgCCsRSg https://youtu.be/aXfTgCCsRSg (T=4:30) The emulating different lenses part is that with this setup you can parametrically collect specific rays bouncing off the object (presumably the angle of the mirror with respect to radius), and the resulting image will be the same as you’d get from a lens with those parameters.

furyofantares 2y ago

Same reaction here but with a little more thought I give it more credit. The resulting image looks like you're looking at the subject head-on from a point behind the wall. It doesn't look like you're peeking over the wall at some angle. The actual video doesn't have this headline, the clickbait comes from this article that doesn't really add anything over the video. It's clearly referencing the part of the video where says "sees around walls", but actually that is more accurate anyway compared to "sees behind walls" because it does see all around the wall. The ring lens characterization in the video is even better at not setting a weird expectation. The video itself is wonderful regardless. I thought the ignored and reversed perspective shots were amazing.

dataflow 2y ago
Thanks, I didn't have a chance to watch the video, I just read the article. I'll have to take a look at it later.