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It is worrisome someone would have to prove innocence to remain off death row.
by fracus 2y ago
It is worrisome someone would have to prove innocence to remain off death row.
- unsnap_biceps 2y agoI am firmly in the camp of the justice system should never execute anyone. It's a one way door that presumes the system is infallible and we've had proof after proof of cases where the system failed.
- whatshisface 2y agoAll sentences are a one-way door. You don't get years of your life back, or the skills that atrophy in jail if you had any before.
- immibis 2y agoIndeed. But a death penalty can't even give you back your remaining ones once you're found innocent, so it's worse in some sense.
- gostsamo 2y agoIf you are sentenced falsely, would you liked to be killed or you would choose to spend some time in jail and be released when proved innocent? What you are giving here is really false equivalence which contributes absolutely nothing to the conversation.
- lazide 2y agoAre we talking life sentences, or a year or two?
- hnlmorg 2y agoIf I have to spend 20+ years then my life as I know it is over because there’s no way I’m coming out the same person that went in.
- potsandpans 2y agoGiven the choice of 15+ years in maximum security US prison or death, id unequivocally choose death.
- qingcharles 2y agoNot even sentences. I've known multiple people who have been incarcerated over a decade on allegations in pre-trail detention ("jail"). You don't need a sentence to lose years of your life.
- csomar 2y agoThe land of "human rights": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolutions_concerning_death_penalty_at_the_United_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolutions_concerning_death_p...
- dangus 2y agoThe justice system relies on the concept of guilt beyond reasonable doubt. That standard doesn’t mean “proved to be impossible to be innocent.” In a system that is in a population of millions of people, there are bound to be edge cases where there’s a lot of damning evidence and people look guilty who just aren’t. It’s one of the many arguments against capital punishment. It can’t be undone.
- shiroiushi 2y ago>It’s one of the many arguments against capital punishment. It can’t be undone. Neither can time spent behind bars.
- mulmen 2y agoThe time served can’t be undone but the incarceration can.
- sdenton4 2y agoAnd there's little details like $320k settlements for wrongful imprisonment to help transition back out of prison... Harder when you're dead.
- hnlmorg 2y agoI’ve seen interviews with people how have been wrongfully imprisoned for extended periods and they’re changed in irreversible ways. Some of them are unlikely to ever integrate back into normal society.
- hkt 2y ago> Some of them are unlikely to ever integrate back into normal society. This is an indictment of the system itself. If it damages innocent people who are wrongfully jailed so badly, how can anyone ever hope it'll turn actual criminals into citizens?