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It is remarkable that this steaming pile of utter horse shit is on the front page, considering Zero Hedge is a far-right website masquerading as intellectualism

It is remarkable that this steaming pile of utter horse shit is on the front page, considering Zero Hedge is a far-right website masquerading as intellectualism. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised, as this kind of nonsense is frequently tolerated and encouraged here. A reckoning is coming, but for tech, not India.

big-green-man 2y ago
While I don't agree with the sentiments expressed here, it's an excerpt from this speech https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y and not original to the website that published it.
- rramadass 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42507476 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42507476
  - big-green-man 2y ago
    Again, I don't agree with it. I replied to this comment already. I'm just clearing up a lie, that this material is sourced from a white supremacist website. It's not. It's sourced from an Indian guy who makes his living understanding India for clients who wish to operate there. I have actually lived in India. I experienced a lot of what the author talks about with regard to corruption, the culture of corruption, the dirtiness and how the cities are jam packed beyond imagination, there's a culture of degradation of those viewed as lesser than you. But in my experience it's not an honorless society devoid of all virtue and all that like the speaker said. Many people do have a sense of real justice there and do want those aspects of the society to be changed, I could tell you stories that would make you weep with joy. I think the speaker is overly cynical about the state of India socially.
    - rramadass 2y ago
      You don't have to agree with it, but by giving such videos greater visibility you are certainly helping in amplifying its hateful contents, much of which is outright slander and vitriolic falsehoods. I am an Indian currently living in India but have also lived in the US for a long time. Even with that knowledge i would never use such inflammatory language to describe the ills of either country. The person has an hateful agenda not meaningful to solving any problems and hence should not be tolerated nor given any publicity.
      - big-green-man 2y ago
        I don't care about amplification. I don't buy that silence wrongthink bs. Something is true or it's not. Use your brain to determine if it is true. I used mine, I don't think it's true. I'm not going to refrain from discussing and referencing ideas because some people are afraid to talk about them. It isn't enough for you that I don't think that way, you want me to not even talk about what someone else said. Fuck that. To be candid, you can take your "you shouldn't be allowed to say that" crap and stuff it up your ass.
        rramadass 2y ago
        If you can't understand the difference between how to talk logically about issues vs. agenda driven "hate speech", then i can only repeat your own words to you i.e. "take your opinion crap and stuff it up your ass". Nobody is trying to do "thought control" here. The point is that some subjects should be approached properly and respectfully in order to have some sort of a discussion else it is merely rabble-rousing for the peanut gallery.
tokioyoyo 2y ago
A good chunk of tech is lobbying for unfiltered online speech. Which is fair, and I get it. But anyone who was close to running / knows people who run general purpose forums could attest how this is the norm. People love hating online, and it’s just swinging from one extreme to others. This month’s flavour is India.

big-green-man 2y ago

While I don't agree with the sentiments expressed here, it's an excerpt from this speech https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y and not original to the website that published it.

rramadass 2y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42507476 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42507476
- big-green-man 2y ago
  Again, I don't agree with it. I replied to this comment already. I'm just clearing up a lie, that this material is sourced from a white supremacist website. It's not. It's sourced from an Indian guy who makes his living understanding India for clients who wish to operate there. I have actually lived in India. I experienced a lot of what the author talks about with regard to corruption, the culture of corruption, the dirtiness and how the cities are jam packed beyond imagination, there's a culture of degradation of those viewed as lesser than you. But in my experience it's not an honorless society devoid of all virtue and all that like the speaker said. Many people do have a sense of real justice there and do want those aspects of the society to be changed, I could tell you stories that would make you weep with joy. I think the speaker is overly cynical about the state of India socially.
  - rramadass 2y ago
    You don't have to agree with it, but by giving such videos greater visibility you are certainly helping in amplifying its hateful contents, much of which is outright slander and vitriolic falsehoods. I am an Indian currently living in India but have also lived in the US for a long time. Even with that knowledge i would never use such inflammatory language to describe the ills of either country. The person has an hateful agenda not meaningful to solving any problems and hence should not be tolerated nor given any publicity.
    - big-green-man 2y ago
      I don't care about amplification. I don't buy that silence wrongthink bs. Something is true or it's not. Use your brain to determine if it is true. I used mine, I don't think it's true. I'm not going to refrain from discussing and referencing ideas because some people are afraid to talk about them. It isn't enough for you that I don't think that way, you want me to not even talk about what someone else said. Fuck that. To be candid, you can take your "you shouldn't be allowed to say that" crap and stuff it up your ass.
      - rramadass 2y ago
        If you can't understand the difference between how to talk logically about issues vs. agenda driven "hate speech", then i can only repeat your own words to you i.e. "take your opinion crap and stuff it up your ass". Nobody is trying to do "thought control" here. The point is that some subjects should be approached properly and respectfully in order to have some sort of a discussion else it is merely rabble-rousing for the peanut gallery.

tokioyoyo 2y ago

A good chunk of tech is lobbying for unfiltered online speech. Which is fair, and I get it. But anyone who was close to running / knows people who run general purpose forums could attest how this is the norm. People love hating online, and it’s just swinging from one extreme to others. This month’s flavour is India.