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India: It's Worse Than You Think
- BMc2020 2y ago[flagged]
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- almaight 2y agoCaste system is racism at state level
- WeylandYutani 2y agoIt strikes me as odd that India is not talked about more the caste system goes against 500 years of Western philosophy. I suspect there will be a lot of issues with integration.
- sinuhe69 2y agoI can see that such problems are prevalent in any large society with a low standard of living and therefore fewer opportunities. Or you could say that too much competition and fighting for mere survival corrupts people. But I don't know if the situation is as hopeless as the author describes. Maybe in a personal sense it is hopeless to change society. But there is always a larger undercurrent that we often overlook. Nature dictates that everything that is damaged beyond repair will be destroyed. And rebuilt, renewed. And in this sense: happy holidays and a happy new year!
- rramadass 2y agoThis is garbage. There are lots of things wrong in India and should be discussed (as in many other countries) but the vitriol in this article is off the charts and mostly has no basis in facts. This is just rabid Anti-Indian sentiment masquerading as scholarly commentary.
- oracleclyde 2y agoWell, it IS a cross post from American Renaissance, a white supremacist publication.
- big-green-man 2y agoActually, the source is this speech https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y
- rramadass 2y agoGarbage is Garbage, in whichever guise it may come from. The article/video is full of inflammatory language and is the very definition of "hate speech". Please stop posting such things here.
- big-green-man 2y agoI didn't post anything, the video I linked to is in the article in the OP. I'm just clearing up the claim that this is sourced from some white supremacist website. It is not true. I don't claim to agree with anything in the video.
- rramadass 2y agoYou didn't have to post the video. The fact that it is being amplified by white racist supremacist sites is exactly what nobody wants. It is garbage and is better ignored and left to die.
- devops99 2y ago"Culture is your operating system" ~ Terence McKenna
- lostinsauce2 2y agoIt is remarkable that this steaming pile of utter horse shit is on the front page, considering Zero Hedge is a far-right website masquerading as intellectualism. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised, as this kind of nonsense is frequently tolerated and encouraged here. A reckoning is coming, but for tech, not India.
- big-green-man 2y agoWhile I don't agree with the sentiments expressed here, it's an excerpt from this speech https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y and not original to the website that published it.
- rramadass 2y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42507476 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42507476
- big-green-man 2y agoAgain, I don't agree with it. I replied to this comment already. I'm just clearing up a lie, that this material is sourced from a white supremacist website. It's not. It's sourced from an Indian guy who makes his living understanding India for clients who wish to operate there. I have actually lived in India. I experienced a lot of what the author talks about with regard to corruption, the culture of corruption, the dirtiness and how the cities are jam packed beyond imagination, there's a culture of degradation of those viewed as lesser than you. But in my experience it's not an honorless society devoid of all virtue and all that like the speaker said. Many people do have a sense of real justice there and do want those aspects of the society to be changed, I could tell you stories that would make you weep with joy. I think the speaker is overly cynical about the state of India socially.
- rramadass 2y agoYou don't have to agree with it, but by giving such videos greater visibility you are certainly helping in amplifying its hateful contents, much of which is outright slander and vitriolic falsehoods. I am an Indian currently living in India but have also lived in the US for a long time. Even with that knowledge i would never use such inflammatory language to describe the ills of either country. The person has an hateful agenda not meaningful to solving any problems and hence should not be tolerated nor given any publicity.
- araes 2y agoReading through this, mostly struck by how positive it seemed toward "the West". Admittedly, from a British immigrant perspective, which may have something to do with the result. However, many of the quotes could have relatively easily replaced "Indian" with "American" and I'm not sure I would have noticed other than the occasional references to India specific cultural institutions and caste ideas. - Many people lie openly. Everyone knows everyone lies, but everyone lies anyway. Many 'Americans' convince themselves of their lies so that they can no longer differentiate between fact and fiction. - Among ordinary 'Americans', conversations revolve around backbiting, gossiping about friends, discussing celebrities, exchanging superstitions, and animosity toward other groups. - When I was a child growing up in 'America', I learned that “might makes right.” Power was often abused, with those in control acting as if they had a God-given right to exploit and dominate others. The display of authority could be so extreme that questioning it or expecting those in power to do their duty might lead to retribution. Those in authority seemed to believe that their positions were not for serving others but for personal gain.
- oracleclyde 2y agoWait. This is a reprint from American Renaissance, the white supremacist publication. This is why it feels icky and just plain wrong. Do you usually allows white supremacy masquerading as intellectualism?
- big-green-man 2y agoThere's a link to the speech this excerpt is from. The guy speaking is very clearly Indian. The source of this is not from a white supremacist organization, of course they'd salivate at finding it and publish it but that's not where it comes from.
- dtquad 2y agoNo, "American Renaissance" is the original publisher who published the article the 19th of this month. "Zero Hedge" published the article five days later on the 24th of this month.
- big-green-man 2y agoThe original source for this article and that article you're referencing is this video https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y https://youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y
- rramadass 2y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42512172 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42512172
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- tim333 2y ago>Most Indians cannot think beyond money, sex, and survival — just what you would expect of a society with an average IQ of 77. A tad racist here? Contrast with how they do in the US: https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/11h2fc0/median_household_income_in_the_usa_by_ethnicity/ https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/11h2fc0/median_...
- devops99 2y agoIs it really true that the average IQ in India is 77?
- tptacek 2y agoNo. There is essentially no credible research anywhere that ranks countries like this. People are usually citing Richard Lynn's "IQ and the Wealth Of Nations", which has a risible methodology; that paper gives India an 82, not a 77, which is interesting only to the extent that it muddies the waters of where this author got that absurd claim from. Any time you see a country => IQ mapping somewhere, you should assume you're getting worked. Lynn's work is the most credible attempt at that, and nobody even a little bit serious takes it even a little bit seriously.
- devops99 2y ago[flagged]
- tptacek 2y agoStipulating that it's even possible to produce this kind of ranking, and that it would be meaningful, your answer: because reliably generating the data you would need to do it is a ludicrously expensive proposition. It is a little wild that people sort of automatically buy the idea that Richard Lynn had access to the data he would have needed to perform this analysis!
- devops99 2y ago