> However, if we can't know whether the universe is truly deterministic, then modeling is a pragmatic exercise in control (or management). What would you say i

> However, if we can't know whether the universe is truly deterministic, then modeling is a pragmatic exercise in control (or management). What would you say if we can predict the outcome of an experiment with 51% probability. Is that enough to establish what you call "control"? What if we can repeat the experiment as many times as we like? (I must admit, I still don't really understand what "control" means to you, but let's get the preliminaries out of the way first.)