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These kinds of comments always come up in these kinds of discussions It's kind of funny because it really doesn't matter. The handwringling over whether it's j
by famouswaffles 2y ago
These kinds of comments always come up in these kinds of discussions
It's kind of funny because it really doesn't matter. The handwringling over whether it's just "elaborate science fiction" or has "real introspection" is entirely meaningless.
Consequences are consequences regardless of what semantical category you feel compelled to push LLMs into.
If Copilot will no longer reply helpfully because your previous messages were rude then that is a consequence. It doesn't matter whether it was "really upset" or not.
If some future VLM robot decides to take your hand off as some revenge plot, that's a consequence. It doesn't matter if this is some elaborate role play. It doesn't matter if the robot "has no real identity" and "cannot act on real vengeance". Like who cares ? Your hand is gone and it's not coming back.
It's a meaningless game of semantics.
- yborg 2y agoIf you believe that humans creating a system that could develop self-awareness is a meaningless game, then yeah, it's all just semantics I guess. By this standard human consciousness is meaningless as well, if all behavior is just a kind of elaborate pre-programming then human beings have no agency either.
- famouswaffles 2y agoYes, what you decide to call a system that exhibits the properties of "self-awareness" is entirely meaningless. The consequences are exactly the same. You can call it "fake self-awareness" or whatever you want but that doesn't change anything. If I say you are conscious, it's simply an assumption based on actions I observe from you. If I instead say, "No, yborg just has 'fake consciousness'", guess what ? Nothing changes for the rest of the world. If punched you, I'd expect retaliation. Whether I said that was real anger or pretend anger is again irrelevant.