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> Nowadays credit cards don't even come with raised numbers... So that's what the raised numbers were for. I just got my first card without raised numbers last

> Nowadays credit cards don't even come with raised numbers... So that's what the raised numbers were for. I just got my first card without raised numbers last January. It still feels fake and "insecure" to me, even though I know better. Funny how things work.

diggan 2y ago
My latest card doesn't even have the card number, expiry or CVC printed on it at all. And besides that, the CVC code is dynamically generated every time I need it, it doesn't even have a static CVC. Seems relatively new, as some people look at funnily when I hand it over when they need it for "deposits" or whatever.
- lxgr 2y ago
  Apple Card, by any chance? I've always wondered how that works for businesses that still prefer to compare the last four digits of a physical card with those of a booking made online, like some hotels or airlines still do.
  - diggan 2y ago
    Nope, a physical card from BBVA. I tend to use banks for my financial needs ;) So far, they've looked at me strangely, fetched a superior who either says "whatever" or they run through the card through their reader to get the last four. Seems to work out well enough at least.
    - lxgr 2y ago
      Don't worry, the Apple card is issued by a bank too, not Apple. Running it through a reader would also not work – the number on the chip and magnetic stripe is different from the one you see in the app and use for online payments. That's why I'd rather not use it for a hotel or international airline booking, for example (some still have "you must have the physical card with you to be allowed to board" in their terms and conditions, although nobody has ever requested to see mine in practice). Do you know if your last four digits (that are printed on receipts too) match those you can see in the app?
      - diggan 2y ago
        > Don't worry, the Apple card is issued by a bank too, not Apple. Ah, first time I heard about it, seems to not be available outside the US so that explains it :) > Do you know if your last four digits (that are printed on receipts too) match those you can see in the app? Yes, it does. It also matches with whatever they see when they run the card, however they do that. The card number is identical for online payments, "offline" payments (with terminals) and what I see in my banking application. The only thing that changes is the CVC, as it rotates every ~6 minutes or so.

diggan 2y ago

My latest card doesn't even have the card number, expiry or CVC printed on it at all. And besides that, the CVC code is dynamically generated every time I need it, it doesn't even have a static CVC. Seems relatively new, as some people look at funnily when I hand it over when they need it for "deposits" or whatever.

lxgr 2y ago
Apple Card, by any chance? I've always wondered how that works for businesses that still prefer to compare the last four digits of a physical card with those of a booking made online, like some hotels or airlines still do.
- diggan 2y ago
  Nope, a physical card from BBVA. I tend to use banks for my financial needs ;) So far, they've looked at me strangely, fetched a superior who either says "whatever" or they run through the card through their reader to get the last four. Seems to work out well enough at least.
  - lxgr 2y ago
    Don't worry, the Apple card is issued by a bank too, not Apple. Running it through a reader would also not work – the number on the chip and magnetic stripe is different from the one you see in the app and use for online payments. That's why I'd rather not use it for a hotel or international airline booking, for example (some still have "you must have the physical card with you to be allowed to board" in their terms and conditions, although nobody has ever requested to see mine in practice). Do you know if your last four digits (that are printed on receipts too) match those you can see in the app?
    - diggan 2y ago
      > Don't worry, the Apple card is issued by a bank too, not Apple. Ah, first time I heard about it, seems to not be available outside the US so that explains it :) > Do you know if your last four digits (that are printed on receipts too) match those you can see in the app? Yes, it does. It also matches with whatever they see when they run the card, however they do that. The card number is identical for online payments, "offline" payments (with terminals) and what I see in my banking application. The only thing that changes is the CVC, as it rotates every ~6 minutes or so.