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The economic reality is both parents are usually working these days. Parenting responsibilities are a lot more shared than they used to be while men identify st

The economic reality is both parents are usually working these days. Parenting responsibilities are a lot more shared than they used to be while men identify strongly with how they perform at work. It’s a squeeze.

anonzzzies 2y ago
Not sure it is these days; in my youth in the 80s-90s, at least 5 fathers of friends committed suicide (4 by hanging, 1 by gassing himself in his car). Might be more I don't know about. No sure about the stats / difference.
- lotsofpulp 2y ago
  I am going to guess your group of friends was quite the outlier. Or you considered a ton of people to be your friends.
  - bean-weevil 2y ago
    > Or you considered a ton of people to be your friends. That's an awful way to write that. You're insinuating that maybe their friends weren't true. How could you know?
    - dambi0 2y ago
      I think you are maybe looking for offense. If I say “I consider them a good friend” it doesn’t bring into question the strength of the friendship.
      - bean-weevil 2y ago
        You're totally right. I didn't think of it that way.
      - anonzzzies 2y ago
        I didn't say good friends; I was in school; guys in my class are my friends unless they are my enemies. And I included that I don't know the stats or data on it, but hearing from others now, many years later, it was not rare. I also had 2 family members and 2 good friends commit suicide over my lifetime: no idea about stats again, but I know a lot of people (and I live in a completely different country now) who had similar stats.
- sellmesoap 2y ago
  I've also experienced this (sample of 1 in the 2000's) but it is devastating for all who are near.
bobxmax 2y ago
This is the real problem IMO. I live in a very religiously conservative country with pretty strict gender roles in marriages. Having lived in the West before, I definitely see a lot less dysfunction or mental health issues here, at least from my peers. But there's also a lot of collectivism here - village to raise a child sort of thing and most people live in joint families. The human being is still adapting to a very new and very foreign reality.

anonzzzies 2y ago

Not sure it is these days; in my youth in the 80s-90s, at least 5 fathers of friends committed suicide (4 by hanging, 1 by gassing himself in his car). Might be more I don't know about. No sure about the stats / difference.

lotsofpulp 2y ago
I am going to guess your group of friends was quite the outlier. Or you considered a ton of people to be your friends.
- bean-weevil 2y ago
  > Or you considered a ton of people to be your friends. That's an awful way to write that. You're insinuating that maybe their friends weren't true. How could you know?
  - dambi0 2y ago
    I think you are maybe looking for offense. If I say “I consider them a good friend” it doesn’t bring into question the strength of the friendship.
    - bean-weevil 2y ago
      You're totally right. I didn't think of it that way.
    - anonzzzies 2y ago
      I didn't say good friends; I was in school; guys in my class are my friends unless they are my enemies. And I included that I don't know the stats or data on it, but hearing from others now, many years later, it was not rare. I also had 2 family members and 2 good friends commit suicide over my lifetime: no idea about stats again, but I know a lot of people (and I live in a completely different country now) who had similar stats.
sellmesoap 2y ago
I've also experienced this (sample of 1 in the 2000's) but it is devastating for all who are near.

bobxmax 2y ago

This is the real problem IMO. I live in a very religiously conservative country with pretty strict gender roles in marriages. Having lived in the West before, I definitely see a lot less dysfunction or mental health issues here, at least from my peers. But there's also a lot of collectivism here - village to raise a child sort of thing and most people live in joint families. The human being is still adapting to a very new and very foreign reality.