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I'm kind of pro Amazon regardless of their ruthless capitalism simply because I don't think regular people could have come up with the conveniences Bezos came u

I'm kind of pro Amazon regardless of their ruthless capitalism simply because I don't think regular people could have come up with the conveniences Bezos came up with. He improved QOL for people, period. Unions would never have allowed something like Amazon to evolve to what it is today. This is not true for all companies, but I think it's particularly true for Amazon.

jMyles 2y ago
I had more-or-less the same position, until the childish and violent responses to the protests began. The spraying of water - on a day below freezing - at the food and water station is perhaps a back-breaking straw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so0A0wNfkIc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so0A0wNfkIc If respond with real discussions about whether the point you make is dispositive, rather than being assholes, I think things are different.
- bloomingkales 2y ago
  Woah. TIL.
muzani 2y ago
We don't have Amazon here in Malaysia (not counting AWS, Kindle, Prime Video). But I think life hasn't become any better or worse with the alternatives. There's the big 3 e-commerce companies (Lazada, Shopee, TikTok). But even if we didn't have AWS, there's still Azure, Alicloud and so on, same with other products. I'm curious what kind of conveniences Bezos did that wouldn't be around without him.
- nwgo 2y ago
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- bloomingkales 2y ago
  I don't think there would have been a societal push for same-day delivery, and I don't think there would have been an ambitious push to own the entire delivery logistics operation. Not only did they aim for a crazy feature, but they knocked it out of the park by going overboard and owning the trucks. Our society would not have this if someone didn't push for it IMHO, or we would have had it much later. Think of it like Covid and remote work. It wasn't going to be happen for real without something extraordinary.
muttonhead 2y ago
Odd way to say that it wouldn’t have been possible without taking advantage of workers

jMyles 2y ago

I had more-or-less the same position, until the childish and violent responses to the protests began. The spraying of water - on a day below freezing - at the food and water station is perhaps a back-breaking straw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so0A0wNfkIc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so0A0wNfkIc If respond with real discussions about whether the point you make is dispositive, rather than being assholes, I think things are different.

bloomingkales 2y ago
Woah. TIL.

muzani 2y ago

We don't have Amazon here in Malaysia (not counting AWS, Kindle, Prime Video). But I think life hasn't become any better or worse with the alternatives. There's the big 3 e-commerce companies (Lazada, Shopee, TikTok). But even if we didn't have AWS, there's still Azure, Alicloud and so on, same with other products. I'm curious what kind of conveniences Bezos did that wouldn't be around without him.

nwgo 2y ago
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bloomingkales 2y ago
I don't think there would have been a societal push for same-day delivery, and I don't think there would have been an ambitious push to own the entire delivery logistics operation. Not only did they aim for a crazy feature, but they knocked it out of the park by going overboard and owning the trucks. Our society would not have this if someone didn't push for it IMHO, or we would have had it much later. Think of it like Covid and remote work. It wasn't going to be happen for real without something extraordinary.

muttonhead 2y ago

Odd way to say that it wouldn’t have been possible without taking advantage of workers