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Sure they’re against them - they’re much simpler to service and most likely significantly more reliable. Given that dealers typically make most of their money

Sure they’re against them - they’re much simpler to service and most likely significantly more reliable. Given that dealers typically make most of their money on service (repairs) than on sales of vehicles, it’s no wonder they’re more likely to be biased against EVs. I have an ICE F-150 (2016) and I can’t fathom only having 240ish miles of range. I’ll wait 5 years for the 450 mile version.

NotSammyHagar 2y ago
depending on model, already have 320 miles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-150_Lightning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-150_Lightning. They now test them doing things like going 70 mph without stopping, got 270 miles https://insideevs.com/reviews/598000/ford-f150-lightning-range-test-review/ https://insideevs.com/reviews/598000/ford-f150-lightning-ran.... EPA doesn't drive them that steadily that fast on their test run. The new Tesla model 3 (highland) gets 370 miles on that test.
- GiorgioG 2y ago
  Chevy’s RST Silverado can do 450 miles, but it’s nearly $100k.
  - NotSammyHagar 2y ago
    Wow, that's high $. The Honda Prologue, which is a rebadged GM blah, can do 230 miles at 70mph (95% of battery), which is a slightly different strategy than out of spec reviews does (https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-honda-prologue-electric-suv-first-test-review/#google_vignette https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-honda-prologue-elect...). This is a rebadged chevy blazer ev, except it (1) doesn't have onstar (yay!), (2) had android auto and apple carplay unlike GM cars. What's the best tradeoff for cost vs range? It's about $60k before discounts. The tesla model 3 highland (recent refresh) can do an amazing 370 miles at 70mph. The only problem is it's a tesla. Out of spec drives until the battery is dead. They haven't tested the honda prologue yet.
    - GiorgioG 2y ago
      My wife drives a ‘23 Blazer RS (non-EV). We killed OnStar as soon as the trial ended. Still has CarPlay. At $44k with all the discounts (my dad is a GM retiree), it was hardly a bargain. I can’t imagine paying $60K for the EV version of it. Don’t get me wrong it’s a nice car, but it’s a Chevy.

NotSammyHagar 2y ago

depending on model, already have 320 miles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-150_Lightning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-150_Lightning. They now test them doing things like going 70 mph without stopping, got 270 miles https://insideevs.com/reviews/598000/ford-f150-lightning-range-test-review/ https://insideevs.com/reviews/598000/ford-f150-lightning-ran.... EPA doesn't drive them that steadily that fast on their test run. The new Tesla model 3 (highland) gets 370 miles on that test.

GiorgioG 2y ago
Chevy’s RST Silverado can do 450 miles, but it’s nearly $100k.
- NotSammyHagar 2y ago
  Wow, that's high $. The Honda Prologue, which is a rebadged GM blah, can do 230 miles at 70mph (95% of battery), which is a slightly different strategy than out of spec reviews does (https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-honda-prologue-electric-suv-first-test-review/#google_vignette https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-honda-prologue-elect...). This is a rebadged chevy blazer ev, except it (1) doesn't have onstar (yay!), (2) had android auto and apple carplay unlike GM cars. What's the best tradeoff for cost vs range? It's about $60k before discounts. The tesla model 3 highland (recent refresh) can do an amazing 370 miles at 70mph. The only problem is it's a tesla. Out of spec drives until the battery is dead. They haven't tested the honda prologue yet.
  - GiorgioG 2y ago
    My wife drives a ‘23 Blazer RS (non-EV). We killed OnStar as soon as the trial ended. Still has CarPlay. At $44k with all the discounts (my dad is a GM retiree), it was hardly a bargain. I can’t imagine paying $60K for the EV version of it. Don’t get me wrong it’s a nice car, but it’s a Chevy.