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We do know that microplastics may be reducing male fertility. I know there are others but I haven't done a ton of research [1]. Wood and stainless steel are dif

We do know that microplastics may be reducing male fertility. I know there are others but I haven't done a ton of research [1]. Wood and stainless steel are different because we have evolved with these materials in our surroundings or at least something close to them. Also, wood, and even metals, do not have the staying power of plastic. We already do know that heavy metals are bad if they stick around in your body, but we do need metals in our diets as nutrients as well. It should be assumed that anything that we have invented in the last 200 years should be guilty until proven innocent at this point imo. So many of the "modern marvels" have shown to have horrible health effects. [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9134445/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9134445/

woleium 2y ago
The dangers of sawdust (micro wood?) vary from species of tree to tree, but are generally well known and studied. in particular Manchineel and Yew are known to be dangerous. Wood in its natural state is not a safe substance. African Mahogany for example is highly toxic, causing dermatitis, respiratory issues, giddiness, vomiting, boils, asthma, headaches, and nosebleeds. Has also been linked to nasal cancer. https://www.mountainwoodworker.com/articles/toxic_woods.pdf https://www.mountainwoodworker.com/articles/toxic_woods.pdf
- scns 2y ago
  Wenge and Oak too.
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dylan604 2y ago
> We do know that microplastics may be reducing male fertility. If we "know" something, would we still be using the word "may"? Know seems pretty strong for such a wishywashy result of "may". There's definitely research in fertility rates lowering. Phtalates are receiving a lot of attention as well as an example.
- protonbob 2y ago
  I didn't say that we know that they are reducing male fertility, we know that it's very possible. I could have said it probably does. But I'm not a scientist so I'm not going to.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    We know it's very possible is a very wishywashy comment though. Best I can say is that there are theories, but we don't know if they are true or not yet. Some people think they are, some people disagree. That's why they are not facts.
    - pfdietz 2y ago
      It means "we haven't ruled it out yet". And given the difficulty of conclusively demonstrating a negative, that's a very weak claim.

woleium 2y ago

The dangers of sawdust (micro wood?) vary from species of tree to tree, but are generally well known and studied. in particular Manchineel and Yew are known to be dangerous. Wood in its natural state is not a safe substance. African Mahogany for example is highly toxic, causing dermatitis, respiratory issues, giddiness, vomiting, boils, asthma, headaches, and nosebleeds. Has also been linked to nasal cancer. https://www.mountainwoodworker.com/articles/toxic_woods.pdf https://www.mountainwoodworker.com/articles/toxic_woods.pdf

scns 2y ago
Wenge and Oak too.
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dylan604 2y ago

> We do know that microplastics may be reducing male fertility. If we "know" something, would we still be using the word "may"? Know seems pretty strong for such a wishywashy result of "may". There's definitely research in fertility rates lowering. Phtalates are receiving a lot of attention as well as an example.

protonbob 2y ago
I didn't say that we know that they are reducing male fertility, we know that it's very possible. I could have said it probably does. But I'm not a scientist so I'm not going to.
- dylan604 2y ago
  We know it's very possible is a very wishywashy comment though. Best I can say is that there are theories, but we don't know if they are true or not yet. Some people think they are, some people disagree. That's why they are not facts.
  - pfdietz 2y ago
    It means "we haven't ruled it out yet". And given the difficulty of conclusively demonstrating a negative, that's a very weak claim.