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"but what you've described is nonsense" If what I described is 'nonsense', criticizing Musk for not criticizing China is also 'nonsense' and this entire conver

"but what you've described is nonsense" If what I described is 'nonsense', criticizing Musk for not criticizing China is also 'nonsense' and this entire conversation is moot. But I suspect you don't feel this way. "Walz is highly critical of the Chinese government," Not according to his students. If you were there pre-Tiananmen Square and post-Tiananmen Square and you really didn't like China, you wouldn't continue to business with them and give them money for 25 years after this. Exactly like Musk, he continues to do business with China, even after all of the human rights violation. But, you defend him. It's interesting that it's okay to talk about how bad the Chinese government is now on HN. For years if you even mentioned it, you were deemed racist and downvoted. Once again, the tides change when it can be used against a political enemy.

n4r9 2y ago
> [Walz is not critical of the Chinese government] according to his students. Have you got a source for this? He consistently advised his students to be skeptical of the Chinese government, e.g. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/05/what-really-happened-on-tim-walzs-trips-to-china-00179326 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/05/what-reall... > [If] you really didn't like China, you wouldn't continue to business with them [post-Tiananmen] He loved the Chinese people and hated the government. He was strongly critical of the Tiananmen square massacre as is evident in congress proceedings: https://www.congress.gov/event/113th-congress/house-event/LC23425/text https://www.congress.gov/event/113th-congress/house-event/LC... . Famously he even put up a picture of Tank man in his office. > Exactly like Musk, he continues to do business with China No, not "exactly like". Walz is critical of the Chinese government. Musk is bizarrely quiet about it, despite being critical of governments in the West.

n4r9 2y ago

> [Walz is not critical of the Chinese government] according to his students. Have you got a source for this? He consistently advised his students to be skeptical of the Chinese government, e.g. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/05/what-really-happened-on-tim-walzs-trips-to-china-00179326 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/05/what-reall... > [If] you really didn't like China, you wouldn't continue to business with them [post-Tiananmen] He loved the Chinese people and hated the government. He was strongly critical of the Tiananmen square massacre as is evident in congress proceedings: https://www.congress.gov/event/113th-congress/house-event/LC23425/text https://www.congress.gov/event/113th-congress/house-event/LC... . Famously he even put up a picture of Tank man in his office. > Exactly like Musk, he continues to do business with China No, not "exactly like". Walz is critical of the Chinese government. Musk is bizarrely quiet about it, despite being critical of governments in the West.