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> exactly my point Ok, so you’re saying that because bad things would happen anyway then it doesn’t matter if it’s illegal? So you’re just going to ignore how

> exactly my point Ok, so you’re saying that because bad things would happen anyway then it doesn’t matter if it’s illegal? So you’re just going to ignore how much worse it would be if there were just no laws at all? Corporate scumbags will push any system to its limit and beyond, and if you change the limit, they’ll change the push. Just look at the milk industry in New York City before food adulteration laws took effect. The “bad things will happen anyway” argument makes total sense if you ignore magnitude. Which you can’t. > anti capitalist If you think pointing out the likelihood of corporate misbehavior is anti-capitalist, you’re getting your subjects confused. > 2021 Anywhere else you want to move those goalposts?

ETH_start 2y ago
I'm saying that under any political ideology or philosophy, those things would be illegal and effectively enforced. So this is not a failing of any particular ideology, this is just a human failing showing how it's difficult to enforce complex laws in a complex world. I think what you're promoting is anti-capitalism, meaning believing that imposing heavy restrictions beyond simply laws against dumping on the commons is going to make us better off, when it totally discounts the enormous positive effect that private enterprise has on society and the incredible harm that can be done through crude attempts to regiment human behavior and the corruption that it can breed in the government bureaucracy. See, "everything I want to do is illegal" for the flip side of this, where attempts to stop private sector abuse lead to tyranny: https://web.archive.org/web/20120402151729/http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/Everything-Is-Illegal1esp03.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20120402151729/http://www.mindfu... As for the company mask policies, those began to change in 2021 mostly, not 2020.

ETH_start 2y ago

I'm saying that under any political ideology or philosophy, those things would be illegal and effectively enforced. So this is not a failing of any particular ideology, this is just a human failing showing how it's difficult to enforce complex laws in a complex world. I think what you're promoting is anti-capitalism, meaning believing that imposing heavy restrictions beyond simply laws against dumping on the commons is going to make us better off, when it totally discounts the enormous positive effect that private enterprise has on society and the incredible harm that can be done through crude attempts to regiment human behavior and the corruption that it can breed in the government bureaucracy. See, "everything I want to do is illegal" for the flip side of this, where attempts to stop private sector abuse lead to tyranny: https://web.archive.org/web/20120402151729/http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/2003/Everything-Is-Illegal1esp03.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20120402151729/http://www.mindfu... As for the company mask policies, those began to change in 2021 mostly, not 2020.