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These laws are bought and paid for by corporations of the trillion dollar copyright industry. They hire expensive lobbyists to get these laws passed. It's no su

These laws are bought and paid for by corporations of the trillion dollar copyright industry. They hire expensive lobbyists to get these laws passed. It's no surprise that the laws only foresee the abuse that could hurt their bottom lines. The better question is: why have the people's representatives failed to protect their interests? Why didn't they foresee the abuses that hurt us all?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> why have the people's representatives failed to protect their interests? Nobody cares about copyright. There is a vocal minority of us who do. But we're only slightly more useful on it than the privacy advocates, both sharing a good chunk of people who are lazy or nihlistic about the political process to the point of being politically irrelevant. As a result, a representative who brings up copyright reform gets like one call in support and zero net new votes. Meanwhile, they get powerful and patient adversaries from the Big Tech to the record companies and their billionaire artists.
- int_19h 2y ago
  It really depends on how you phrase it. If you talk about copyright in the abstract, then yes, few people will care. But ask them how they feel about stuff like this specifically, and it'll be rather different.
mithametacs 2y ago
The Senate is quite deliberately there to protect the interests of the wealthy and powerful.
jgerrish 2y ago
It's unfortunate that the UnitedHealth Group death has fanned the flames of this hatred of corporations. Artificial Intelligence is going to change how we work. Many top software engineers on Hacker News may be ok for a while. Although everyone could use help. But already many artists and junior engineers feel pressure. Lack of copyright protection can make that even worse for many. These are allies and people who we mentor. Just brainstorming, Social Purpose Corporations could provide innovative co-op opportunities for artists and engineers. That's just one example. I don't see the management class failing to forsee the financial reality in the global workplace. But I do worry about dependents facing division and hate. Bully that, right? I can't fucking forsee every possibility, traps and all, though. Maybe not social purpose corporations but just hyper-incubators that enable a million small indy corps. Man, I'm imagining Jar Jar binks manning the hyperspace lychgates across from the content generators. Sorry, stupid digression. I'm sorry for wasting cycles on that.
- paulryanrogers 2y ago
  Corporations have earned all the hate they get, UHC even more so. Whether AI decimates the likelihoods of everyone is only more likely with unchecked corpo power in control of everything.
- LocalH 2y ago
  "AI" is like anything else. Big capital will weaponize it to further entrench themselves and further disadvantage smaller businesses and individuals, in the pursuit of increasing profits and growth.
- matheusmoreira 2y ago
  I hate copyright and would rather see it abolished. AI is just the latest iteration of endless corporate abuses. They think copyright exists to keep the likes of us in line while they get to do whatever they want. If we infringe copyright, they compare us to raping and pillaging high seas pirates but then they turn around and say it's OK to infringe copyright on a massive scale so long as they launder it via AI first. I want intellectual property gone so that we can do the same. I want them to be forced to open their weights too.
hulitu 2y ago
> The better question is: why have the people's representatives failed to protect their interests Because there are no "people's representatives" after the voting is done. They just go with the biggest bidder. That's why companies are spending bilions on lobbying.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> why have the people's representatives failed to protect their interests? Nobody cares about copyright. There is a vocal minority of us who do. But we're only slightly more useful on it than the privacy advocates, both sharing a good chunk of people who are lazy or nihlistic about the political process to the point of being politically irrelevant. As a result, a representative who brings up copyright reform gets like one call in support and zero net new votes. Meanwhile, they get powerful and patient adversaries from the Big Tech to the record companies and their billionaire artists.

int_19h 2y ago
It really depends on how you phrase it. If you talk about copyright in the abstract, then yes, few people will care. But ask them how they feel about stuff like this specifically, and it'll be rather different.

mithametacs 2y ago

The Senate is quite deliberately there to protect the interests of the wealthy and powerful.

jgerrish 2y ago

It's unfortunate that the UnitedHealth Group death has fanned the flames of this hatred of corporations. Artificial Intelligence is going to change how we work. Many top software engineers on Hacker News may be ok for a while. Although everyone could use help. But already many artists and junior engineers feel pressure. Lack of copyright protection can make that even worse for many. These are allies and people who we mentor. Just brainstorming, Social Purpose Corporations could provide innovative co-op opportunities for artists and engineers. That's just one example. I don't see the management class failing to forsee the financial reality in the global workplace. But I do worry about dependents facing division and hate. Bully that, right? I can't fucking forsee every possibility, traps and all, though. Maybe not social purpose corporations but just hyper-incubators that enable a million small indy corps. Man, I'm imagining Jar Jar binks manning the hyperspace lychgates across from the content generators. Sorry, stupid digression. I'm sorry for wasting cycles on that.

paulryanrogers 2y ago
Corporations have earned all the hate they get, UHC even more so. Whether AI decimates the likelihoods of everyone is only more likely with unchecked corpo power in control of everything.
LocalH 2y ago
"AI" is like anything else. Big capital will weaponize it to further entrench themselves and further disadvantage smaller businesses and individuals, in the pursuit of increasing profits and growth.
matheusmoreira 2y ago
I hate copyright and would rather see it abolished. AI is just the latest iteration of endless corporate abuses. They think copyright exists to keep the likes of us in line while they get to do whatever they want. If we infringe copyright, they compare us to raping and pillaging high seas pirates but then they turn around and say it's OK to infringe copyright on a massive scale so long as they launder it via AI first. I want intellectual property gone so that we can do the same. I want them to be forced to open their weights too.

hulitu 2y ago

> The better question is: why have the people's representatives failed to protect their interests Because there are no "people's representatives" after the voting is done. They just go with the biggest bidder. That's why companies are spending bilions on lobbying.