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I should note that aggressively calling something dumb over and over again does not actually make it dumb.

by archagon 2y ago

tptacek 2y ago
It's very short, so you can just read it and see how dumb it is.
- archagon 2y ago
  I did not find it to be terribly dumb, simple though it was.
  - tptacek 2y ago
    The causal factors for the life expectancy gap between the US and the G8 have in fact very little do with our health care system, and the (manifold) problems of our health care system have in fact very little to do with health insurance. In fact, if you isolate the health care system, and don't try to six-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon every inequality and equity problem in America onto the health care system, we actually tend to outperform the G8. Don't take my word for it. The manifesto itself says that the guy doesn't understand any of this stuff. Didn't stop him from murdering something. A first, I think, in murderer manifestos!
    - mandmandam 2y ago
      > The manifesto itself says that the guy doesn't understand any of this stuff. Now you're just flat lying. That's not what it said at all, and in fact I explained this to you only hours previous. Here's what the alleged manifesto said: > Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. This is some of the poorest debating I've seen on HN in a long while. I really don't know why you think it's okay to make shit up like this, and then repeat it long after you were patiently corrected. Who do you think you're going to convince this way? Do you have that low an opinion of the crowd here?
      - tptacek 2y ago
        The antecedent of "the guy" was the CEO killer, not you personally.
        mandmandam 2y ago
        I didn't say it was? Try reading the comment again. And, I'd still love to hear why you're flat-out lying about Luigi "dismissing himself" even after it was explained to you? Btw that's not how the word 'antecedent' works.

I should note that aggressively calling something dumb over and over again does not actually make it dumb.

tptacek 2y ago

It's very short, so you can just read it and see how dumb it is.

archagon 2y ago
I did not find it to be terribly dumb, simple though it was.
- tptacek 2y ago
  The causal factors for the life expectancy gap between the US and the G8 have in fact very little do with our health care system, and the (manifold) problems of our health care system have in fact very little to do with health insurance. In fact, if you isolate the health care system, and don't try to six-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon every inequality and equity problem in America onto the health care system, we actually tend to outperform the G8. Don't take my word for it. The manifesto itself says that the guy doesn't understand any of this stuff. Didn't stop him from murdering something. A first, I think, in murderer manifestos!
  - mandmandam 2y ago
    > The manifesto itself says that the guy doesn't understand any of this stuff. Now you're just flat lying. That's not what it said at all, and in fact I explained this to you only hours previous. Here's what the alleged manifesto said: > Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. This is some of the poorest debating I've seen on HN in a long while. I really don't know why you think it's okay to make shit up like this, and then repeat it long after you were patiently corrected. Who do you think you're going to convince this way? Do you have that low an opinion of the crowd here?
    - tptacek 2y ago
      The antecedent of "the guy" was the CEO killer, not you personally.
      - mandmandam 2y ago
        I didn't say it was? Try reading the comment again. And, I'd still love to hear why you're flat-out lying about Luigi "dismissing himself" even after it was explained to you? Btw that's not how the word 'antecedent' works.