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> In a post back in October, I wrote that America’s future could hinge on whether Elon Musk decides to play the superhero or the supervillain > It’s possible t

> In a post back in October, I wrote that America’s future could hinge on whether Elon Musk decides to play the superhero or the supervillain > It’s possible that a bunch of other super-rich people will unite to balance out Musk. No, it's more simple. Oligarchs have more in common with each other than any of them have with you. They are the big people and you are the little people, they are the lords and you are the peasants, they are the patrons and you are the clients. It's why they have dinner together and they don't invite you: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ygvjpxn17o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ygvjpxn17o > In fact, while Real Elon loves capitalism and individual freedoms, Evil Elon is a consistent and dedicated ally of the Chinese Communist Party. Musk pledged his commitment to China's core socialist values: https://www.mediaite.com/news/elon-musk-signs-letter-pledging-teslas-commitment-to-chinas-core-socialist-values/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/elon-musk-signs-letter-pledgin... Musk is keen on criticizing many governments, domestic and foreign. But has Musk ever criticized the Chinese government? Even once? > So who or what could balance out Elon’s power? One way you can do it is to stop giving him money. Tesla sales aren't going well in Europe this year: https://eu-evs.com/brandCharts/TESLA/ALL/Volumes-Quarterly https://eu-evs.com/brandCharts/TESLA/ALL/Volumes-Quarterly And I don't imagine that Musk's support of the AfD in Germany will help Tesla's sales figures: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/20/elon-musk-claims-only-afd-can-save-germany https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/20/elon-musk-clai...

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billy99k 2y ago
"Musk is keen on criticizing many governments, domestic and foreign. But has Musk ever criticized the Chinese government? Even once?" We are going to go here, when the Democrat party has not only had spies in their offices from China, but had a presidential running mate that literally worked with the Chinese government for 25+ years. It's the same with Russia. Bernie Sanders talked about his love of Russia (and it was accepted, because socialism) and as soon as Trump is accused of being a Russian spy, it's now a bad thing. It is kind of curious to me though that the two things that will definitely help with climate change: nuclear power and electric cars, which Musk supports, are now being down played every week on HN as if it's a bad thing. It's as if all of these things don't really matter and it was all about power and politics.....
- peutetre 2y ago
  Can you find for me a single criticism of the Chinese government from Musk? I'd like to see it.
  - billy99k 2y ago
    Can you find me a single criticism, from the people that are criticizing Musk, of what I described here?
    - peutetre 2y ago
      So it's a "no" then. That's a shame.
      - billy99k 2y ago
        So it's a logical fallacy then. I could say Musk doesn't criticize elephants too. Does this mean he supports them?
        peutetre 2y ago
        I hope he supports elephants. They're very endangered. We've already seen that Musk has pledged his commitment to China's core socialist values. Musk also advocates for Taiwan's submission to China: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/08/elon-musk-taiwan-china-special-administrative-zone-hong-kong https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/08/elon-musk... Musk decried California's covid measures as "fascist": https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/29/21242102/elon-musk-coronavirus-fascist-shelter-in-place-tesla-covid-19-safety-science https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/29/21242102/elon-musk-corona... But praised China's covid efforts because "Shanghai's COVID-19 measures helped lay the foundation for the city's future development" even though they were stricter than California's: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-suspends-production-shanghai-factory-4-days-comply-with-covid-curbs-2022-03-28/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-... Musk is full of praise and support for China. Can you find for me a single criticism of the Chinese government from Musk?

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billy99k 2y ago

"Musk is keen on criticizing many governments, domestic and foreign. But has Musk ever criticized the Chinese government? Even once?" We are going to go here, when the Democrat party has not only had spies in their offices from China, but had a presidential running mate that literally worked with the Chinese government for 25+ years. It's the same with Russia. Bernie Sanders talked about his love of Russia (and it was accepted, because socialism) and as soon as Trump is accused of being a Russian spy, it's now a bad thing. It is kind of curious to me though that the two things that will definitely help with climate change: nuclear power and electric cars, which Musk supports, are now being down played every week on HN as if it's a bad thing. It's as if all of these things don't really matter and it was all about power and politics.....

peutetre 2y ago
Can you find for me a single criticism of the Chinese government from Musk? I'd like to see it.
- billy99k 2y ago
  Can you find me a single criticism, from the people that are criticizing Musk, of what I described here?
  - peutetre 2y ago
    So it's a "no" then. That's a shame.
    - billy99k 2y ago
      So it's a logical fallacy then. I could say Musk doesn't criticize elephants too. Does this mean he supports them?
      - peutetre 2y ago
        I hope he supports elephants. They're very endangered. We've already seen that Musk has pledged his commitment to China's core socialist values. Musk also advocates for Taiwan's submission to China: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/08/elon-musk-taiwan-china-special-administrative-zone-hong-kong https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/08/elon-musk... Musk decried California's covid measures as "fascist": https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/29/21242102/elon-musk-coronavirus-fascist-shelter-in-place-tesla-covid-19-safety-science https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/29/21242102/elon-musk-corona... But praised China's covid efforts because "Shanghai's COVID-19 measures helped lay the foundation for the city's future development" even though they were stricter than California's: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-suspends-production-shanghai-factory-4-days-comply-with-covid-curbs-2022-03-28/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-... Musk is full of praise and support for China. Can you find for me a single criticism of the Chinese government from Musk?