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Sounds like a buy signal for AMD. If you run the right branch and set the right env cars, the thing flies.

cherryteastain 2y ago
Unfortunately, > Getting reasonable training performance out of AMD MI300X is an NP-Hard problem.
rikafurude21 2y ago
Would be a a buy signal if their actions (better drivers) show that they are seriously working on improving software. "This could be great _if_ you go through the trouble of doing it right!" is not persuasive, and any sane person would go with green if they know they have the choice between troubleshooting shitty software and things just working. Look at the george hotz archive youtube channel and watch the videos where he's debugging the amd drivers, it damn near ruins the man. And george is not the type to give up at the first roadblock, there are multiple 5-8 hour videos where he just tries to get the thing to work. The mad man ended up just writing his own driver lol.
- ip26 2y ago
  It does seem like an improvement. Six or twelve months ago, I recall a lot of crashes and even more basic problems. “If you tune it right, it’s awesome” is a big step forward compared to that.
incrudible 2y ago
1. AMD always had a lot of hype already priced in, it is no different with AI. 2. AMD has always shipped a bad software stack, it is no different with AI.
latchkey 2y ago
Anthony has been doing training on 4 of our MI300x systems and has been getting great results... but of course, he is a genius, and writing his own code... https://x.com/HotAisle/status/1870984996171006035 https://x.com/HotAisle/status/1870984996171006035 https://x.com/zealandic1/status/1869857713280430349 https://x.com/zealandic1/status/1869857713280430349 https://x.com/zealandic1/status/1868810042168033623 https://x.com/zealandic1/status/1868810042168033623
ryao 2y ago
I expect Nvidia shares to increase tomorrow because of the article while AMD shares are not likely to do well. It is odd how we read the same thing and came to opposite conclusions.

Unfortunately, > Getting reasonable training performance out of AMD MI300X is an NP-Hard problem.

Would be a a buy signal if their actions (better drivers) show that they are seriously working on improving software. "This could be great _if_ you go through the trouble of doing it right!" is not persuasive, and any sane person would go with green if they know they have the choice between troubleshooting shitty software and things just working. Look at the george hotz archive youtube channel and watch the videos where he's debugging the amd drivers, it damn near ruins the man. And george is not the type to give up at the first roadblock, there are multiple 5-8 hour videos where he just tries to get the thing to work. The mad man ended up just writing his own driver lol.

ip26 2y ago
It does seem like an improvement. Six or twelve months ago, I recall a lot of crashes and even more basic problems. “If you tune it right, it’s awesome” is a big step forward compared to that.

incrudible 2y ago

1. AMD always had a lot of hype already priced in, it is no different with AI. 2. AMD has always shipped a bad software stack, it is no different with AI.

latchkey 2y ago

Anthony has been doing training on 4 of our MI300x systems and has been getting great results... but of course, he is a genius, and writing his own code... https://x.com/HotAisle/status/1870984996171006035 https://x.com/HotAisle/status/1870984996171006035 https://x.com/zealandic1/status/1869857713280430349 https://x.com/zealandic1/status/1869857713280430349 https://x.com/zealandic1/status/1868810042168033623 https://x.com/zealandic1/status/1868810042168033623

ryao 2y ago

I expect Nvidia shares to increase tomorrow because of the article while AMD shares are not likely to do well. It is odd how we read the same thing and came to opposite conclusions.