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That was clearly phrased like a fact, which may or may not be correct. If it had been phrased like an opinion we wouldn't be having this conversation... The pr
by BoorishBears 2y ago
That was clearly phrased like a fact, which may or may not be correct. If it had been phrased like an opinion we wouldn't be having this conversation...
The problem is once you believe their fact is wrong, just say "I think you're wrong <insert rest of comment>". Innocently asking for a source as if you're still on the fence is just performative and leads to these conversations where both sides just end up talking past each other:
A source for one underpinning of the incorrect fact comes up, then "well but that only proves X part of it, can you prove Y" and so on.
tl;dr I just find the quality of discourse is much higher when people are direct.
- Capricorn2481 2y ago> I just find the quality of discourse is much higher when people are direct. Well this certainly is a lot of work to make a mountain out of a mole hill, and I'm not sure it increases the quality of discussion either. In any case, I think saying bold shit followed up with "it's speculation, but it's OBVIOUS speculation" is worth asking for some evidence. Obvious speculation implies it's sourced from something other than personal gut feeling. To echo a sibling comment: > Every time someone says their speculation is "obvious" it rings every possible alarm bell for someone who has completely lost grasp of the ability to distinguish between facts and speculation.