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> Yeah, sure. You keep believing that. It's not a question of belief, the evidence is clear as day. > The regulation has done so well to reign in healthcare c

> Yeah, sure. You keep believing that. It's not a question of belief, the evidence is clear as day. > The regulation has done so well to reign in healthcare corporations that people are shooting healthcare ceos in cold blood on the streets and people are cheering about it. The GOP is extremely resistant to any regulation and went out of there way to cripple Obamacare as much as they could. If your takeaway from my previous comment was that regulation in the US is working well, I invite you to re-read it.

hollandheese 2y ago
>It's not a question of belief, the evidence is clear as day. Yeah, sure. The economic system that is boiling the planet and will make it unlivable is the best thing ever!
- ruthmarx 2y ago
  No one claimed that. Can you do better than argue against a strawman?
  - hollandheese 2y ago
    You’re the one arguing that capitalism isn’t the problem when it pretty clearly is. You can’t patch a fundamentally failed system.
    - ruthmarx 2y ago
      I said a lack of regulation around businesses was the problem, and you misrepresented my point, claiming I said capitalism was the best thing ever. Hence the strawman. The claim that capitalism is fundamentally failed is one that needs support, given that it is capitalist countries that have the highest quality of life and are highest on the happiness indices.
      - hollandheese 2y ago
        Please learn about the failures of regulation during the 20th century and how most regulations in the US got clawed away through time. Please learn about regulatory capture and also learn about the failures of NHS and the Canadian health care systems due to the pressures put on them by capitalist system.
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        Specific failures in the past are failures in the specific ways capitalism was implemented. You wouldn't use past failed examples of socialism to argue socialism is fundamentally flawed, would you? I understand you disagree with me and may be dismissive of my position, but let's try to assume good faith and keep this civil, please? We may end up finding we agree more than disagree.

hollandheese 2y ago

>It's not a question of belief, the evidence is clear as day. Yeah, sure. The economic system that is boiling the planet and will make it unlivable is the best thing ever!

ruthmarx 2y ago
No one claimed that. Can you do better than argue against a strawman?
- hollandheese 2y ago
  You’re the one arguing that capitalism isn’t the problem when it pretty clearly is. You can’t patch a fundamentally failed system.
  - ruthmarx 2y ago
    I said a lack of regulation around businesses was the problem, and you misrepresented my point, claiming I said capitalism was the best thing ever. Hence the strawman. The claim that capitalism is fundamentally failed is one that needs support, given that it is capitalist countries that have the highest quality of life and are highest on the happiness indices.
    - hollandheese 2y ago
      Please learn about the failures of regulation during the 20th century and how most regulations in the US got clawed away through time. Please learn about regulatory capture and also learn about the failures of NHS and the Canadian health care systems due to the pressures put on them by capitalist system.
      - ruthmarx 2y ago
        Specific failures in the past are failures in the specific ways capitalism was implemented. You wouldn't use past failed examples of socialism to argue socialism is fundamentally flawed, would you? I understand you disagree with me and may be dismissive of my position, but let's try to assume good faith and keep this civil, please? We may end up finding we agree more than disagree.