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I was raised in the evangelical south to conservative parents. World(coin) sounds like it's right out of the plot of some Sunday morning preacher's sermons [1]

I was raised in the evangelical south to conservative parents. World(coin) sounds like it's right out of the plot of some Sunday morning preacher's sermons [1] about Revelations and the "mark of the Beast". Central organization scanning people and controlling how they transact? Literally the antichrist's M.O. [1] https://youtu.be/zjHrExOM-ww https://youtu.be/zjHrExOM-ww

gadflyinyoureye 2y ago
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oytis 2y ago
Together with the vision of the future where all labour is automated and controlled by a few megacorps it paints a truly apocalyptic picture
AnarchismIsCool 2y ago
I'm a flaming atheist but holy fuck do I get uncomfortable with universal IDs and the growing drumbeat of identity verification. Borders, passports, IDs, personal documentation, it's all just a modern caste system. Yes, it's uncomfortable to think of a world without them but to me, after global warming, digital class slavery is probably the second biggest issue of our time. So much of the world works because bureaucracy is inefficient and non-omniciant, just like humans, yet so many people want the world to be one big TSA checkpoint where everyone must be unnaturally perfect at all times. It's utopian thinking that is leading us towards a type of hell I don't think any of us can even begin to imagine.
- tim333 2y ago
  Borders and passports have been with us for a while now and are not really a tech thing. I'll give you modern KYC stuff is annoying - it seems you have to provide proof of identity, address where you live, and often now where your money came from which can be tricky if you haven't documented it. Worldcoin is actually a step away from the KYC situation where you can prove you are a unique person but not have to give them your name address and finances etc. But so far that's a bit theoretical - all the financial institutions I deal with want KYC stuff and don't accept Worldcoin.
  - AnarchismIsCool 2y ago
    Slavery has existed a lot longer than either of those but you don't see many rational people using that as an argument in favor of it
    - tim333 2y ago
      I'm not a huge fan of borders and passports and the like and in favour of practical solutions to reduce it like the EU border free travel. Also things like in the UK there is no obligation to have any sort of ID. Occasionally the government try to bring in an ID card but people revolt. If it was down to me I'd have fairly free travel within the developed world - say EU, UK, USA, maybe Japan, and limited term work permits for people coming from less well off countries.

gadflyinyoureye 2y ago

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oytis 2y ago

Together with the vision of the future where all labour is automated and controlled by a few megacorps it paints a truly apocalyptic picture

AnarchismIsCool 2y ago

I'm a flaming atheist but holy fuck do I get uncomfortable with universal IDs and the growing drumbeat of identity verification. Borders, passports, IDs, personal documentation, it's all just a modern caste system. Yes, it's uncomfortable to think of a world without them but to me, after global warming, digital class slavery is probably the second biggest issue of our time. So much of the world works because bureaucracy is inefficient and non-omniciant, just like humans, yet so many people want the world to be one big TSA checkpoint where everyone must be unnaturally perfect at all times. It's utopian thinking that is leading us towards a type of hell I don't think any of us can even begin to imagine.

tim333 2y ago
Borders and passports have been with us for a while now and are not really a tech thing. I'll give you modern KYC stuff is annoying - it seems you have to provide proof of identity, address where you live, and often now where your money came from which can be tricky if you haven't documented it. Worldcoin is actually a step away from the KYC situation where you can prove you are a unique person but not have to give them your name address and finances etc. But so far that's a bit theoretical - all the financial institutions I deal with want KYC stuff and don't accept Worldcoin.
- AnarchismIsCool 2y ago
  Slavery has existed a lot longer than either of those but you don't see many rational people using that as an argument in favor of it
  - tim333 2y ago
    I'm not a huge fan of borders and passports and the like and in favour of practical solutions to reduce it like the EU border free travel. Also things like in the UK there is no obligation to have any sort of ID. Occasionally the government try to bring in an ID card but people revolt. If it was down to me I'd have fairly free travel within the developed world - say EU, UK, USA, maybe Japan, and limited term work permits for people coming from less well off countries.