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How would you even build a better version of this geared towards consumers? I don’t see the incentives lining up unless you start charging for the service.

by sss111 2y ago

xyst 2y ago
a simple database of coupon codes for each retailer. That’s it. Basically a “Retailmenot” copy. Interestingly, RMN did sue over alleged IP infringement in 2018 [1] [1] https://ia803106.us.archive.org/8/items/gov.uscourts.ded.65616/gov.uscourts.ded.65616.218.0.pdf https://ia803106.us.archive.org/8/items/gov.uscourts.ded.656...
- deleted 2y ago
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delecti 2y ago
The consumer never gets the affiliate cut either way. If there are coupon codes, the consumer wins. If there aren't, the customer only loses a bit of privacy about what they're buying, which most people don't care about anyway.
- meestaahjoshee 2y ago
  how do you think rakuten cash back works
  - delecti 2y ago
    I have no idea. I'm entirely unfamiliar with that.
    - meestaahjoshee 2y ago
      cash back to the user is a cut of the affiliate revenue/commission they get for the sale. this is commonly how all third party ecommerce cash back programs work (honey, klarna, etc.) the video explains how honey has the same thing but the cut they give you seems to be tiny - like less than a dollar to users for a $30 commission for them as one example. i dont know if this is common practice or not but i'm not a user of these extensions personally.
- rconti 2y ago
  If there's a better coupon code, but the retailer pays Honey to not show it to you, the consumer loses.
- margana 2y ago
  If the consumer intentionally uses the affiliate links to support the creator, then they are deceived if someone else steals that cut. This would be similar to charity money being stolen by some third party - the donator would not be getting that money anyway, yet they might feel hurt if it turns out their money didn't go where they wanted it to go.
margana 2y ago
The same way that uBlock Origin was built. Scams being the only way to make your product "profitable" doesn't validate the scams. That's like saying "I made a business offering to clean people's houses for free. Of course I'm gonna steal their stuff while doing it, how else do you expect me to make money?!"

How would you even build a better version of this geared towards consumers? I don’t see the incentives lining up unless you start charging for the service.

by sss111 2y ago

How would you even build a better version of this geared towards consumers? I don’t see the incentives lining up unless you start charging for the service.

xyst 2y ago

a simple database of coupon codes for each retailer. That’s it. Basically a “Retailmenot” copy. Interestingly, RMN did sue over alleged IP infringement in 2018 [1] [1] https://ia803106.us.archive.org/8/items/gov.uscourts.ded.65616/gov.uscourts.ded.65616.218.0.pdf https://ia803106.us.archive.org/8/items/gov.uscourts.ded.656...

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delecti 2y ago

The consumer never gets the affiliate cut either way. If there are coupon codes, the consumer wins. If there aren't, the customer only loses a bit of privacy about what they're buying, which most people don't care about anyway.

meestaahjoshee 2y ago
how do you think rakuten cash back works
- delecti 2y ago
  I have no idea. I'm entirely unfamiliar with that.
  - meestaahjoshee 2y ago
    cash back to the user is a cut of the affiliate revenue/commission they get for the sale. this is commonly how all third party ecommerce cash back programs work (honey, klarna, etc.) the video explains how honey has the same thing but the cut they give you seems to be tiny - like less than a dollar to users for a $30 commission for them as one example. i dont know if this is common practice or not but i'm not a user of these extensions personally.
rconti 2y ago
If there's a better coupon code, but the retailer pays Honey to not show it to you, the consumer loses.
margana 2y ago
If the consumer intentionally uses the affiliate links to support the creator, then they are deceived if someone else steals that cut. This would be similar to charity money being stolen by some third party - the donator would not be getting that money anyway, yet they might feel hurt if it turns out their money didn't go where they wanted it to go.

margana 2y ago

The same way that uBlock Origin was built. Scams being the only way to make your product "profitable" doesn't validate the scams. That's like saying "I made a business offering to clean people's houses for free. Of course I'm gonna steal their stuff while doing it, how else do you expect me to make money?!"