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Socratic questioning is not cluelessness and your inability to answer does not bolster your position.

zmgsabst 2y ago
Socratic questioning requires the asker to have a deeper understanding whereby they guide with their questions. Do you think that’s what people see in yours?
- Eisenstein 2y ago
  I don't know what people are seeing in my questions, but apparently they don't like answering them, because no one has. I'm trying to understand what people mean by 'detachment from reality' and how such a thing is related to 'understanding of mortality', and how a deeper understanding of mortality and acceptance of death would manifest in ways that can be seen. If 'acceptance of death' does not actually mean that they are more comfortable talking about death, or allowing people to choose their own deaths, or accepting their loved one's deaths with more ease, then what does it mean? Is it something else? Why can't anyone say what it is? Why it is so obvious to the people stating that it happens, but no one can explain why the questions I asked are not being answered or are wrong? If this is come basic conflict of frameworks wherein I am making assumptions that make no sense to the people who are making the assertions I am questioning, then what am I missing here?
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  - zmgsabst 2y ago
    > I don't know what people are seeing in my questions, but apparently they don't like answering them > I'm trying to understand Wouldn’t people be responding poorly to your questions, because they seem facetious when that’s precisely what people mean? — and obviously so? Eg, my niece dealt better with pets dying than other kids her age I’ve known since her family regularly slaughters chickens. > people mean by 'detachment from reality' and how such a thing is related to 'understanding of mortality' This too is so obvious that people think you’re responding in poor faith — eg, the professional managerial class has destroyed multiple cities by being so detached from reality that they no longer imprison career criminals, resulting in social breakdown not even seen in many third world countries. That’s why I don’t think it’s Socratic questioning: just you not understanding the basic implications or yourself being unaware of reality. > no one can explain why the questions I asked are not being answered or are wrong? I did say why: you come across as arrogant and ignorant by asking seemingly facetious questions about obvious implications — then comparing yourself to Socrates for doing so.

Socratic questioning requires the asker to have a deeper understanding whereby they guide with their questions. Do you think that’s what people see in yours?

Eisenstein 2y ago
I don't know what people are seeing in my questions, but apparently they don't like answering them, because no one has. I'm trying to understand what people mean by 'detachment from reality' and how such a thing is related to 'understanding of mortality', and how a deeper understanding of mortality and acceptance of death would manifest in ways that can be seen. If 'acceptance of death' does not actually mean that they are more comfortable talking about death, or allowing people to choose their own deaths, or accepting their loved one's deaths with more ease, then what does it mean? Is it something else? Why can't anyone say what it is? Why it is so obvious to the people stating that it happens, but no one can explain why the questions I asked are not being answered or are wrong? If this is come basic conflict of frameworks wherein I am making assumptions that make no sense to the people who are making the assertions I am questioning, then what am I missing here?
- sabbaticaldev 2y ago
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- zmgsabst 2y ago
  > I don't know what people are seeing in my questions, but apparently they don't like answering them > I'm trying to understand Wouldn’t people be responding poorly to your questions, because they seem facetious when that’s precisely what people mean? — and obviously so? Eg, my niece dealt better with pets dying than other kids her age I’ve known since her family regularly slaughters chickens. > people mean by 'detachment from reality' and how such a thing is related to 'understanding of mortality' This too is so obvious that people think you’re responding in poor faith — eg, the professional managerial class has destroyed multiple cities by being so detached from reality that they no longer imprison career criminals, resulting in social breakdown not even seen in many third world countries. That’s why I don’t think it’s Socratic questioning: just you not understanding the basic implications or yourself being unaware of reality. > no one can explain why the questions I asked are not being answered or are wrong? I did say why: you come across as arrogant and ignorant by asking seemingly facetious questions about obvious implications — then comparing yourself to Socrates for doing so.