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Why do you think it’s “fine” that the parent commentator thinks “ yes, some population groups really are more intelligent than others”? What do you think he mea
by itsyaboy123 2y ago
Why do you think it’s “fine” that the parent commentator thinks “ yes, some population groups really are more intelligent than others”? What do you think he means by the “truly taboo comparisons” and why do you think he’s too chickenshit to say what he means? Why is that “fine” instead of “grounds for immediate ostracism”?
- peterfirefly 2y ago[flagged]
- defrost 2y agoAre you ascribing that to innate genetic IQ inferiority or to social and environmental causes? Eg: Resource starved German schoolchildren in WWII scored almost two std deviations lower than the same demographic from the same classes and schools five years earlier.
- tptacek 2y agoThere's pretty decent odds this person is coming to this conversation with "IQ and the Wealth Of Nations"-level data. Lots of little tells.
- defrost 2y agolittle tells? I figured the direct quotes from The Bell End were a bit of a give away.
- tptacek 2y agoI mostly just want to preempt the inevitable citation to IQ & The Wealth Of Nations; it's a little squicky for me to predict it's coming (but it was definitely coming).
- itsyaboy123 2y agoBut apparently being a barely-concealed white supremacist is “fine”. Reasonable people can agree to disagree, in your view.
- itsyaboy123 2y ago[flagged]
- tptacek 2y agoYou aren't helping.
- itsyaboy123 2y agoSure, this John C Calhoun level racist will probably just change his mind about Blacks being untermenschen if you’re just polite enough to him. I understand that the stated HN policy is that polite, fig-leafed White supremacy and 1920’s style race science is fine and name-calling is not, but get real. Your attitude is not just not helpful, it actively helps normalize scumbags like this piece of shit.
- tptacek 2y agoYou're coming across as someone terrified that the literature is going to back this person up. It does not. Can you just go to Twitter and dunk on HN instead? All you're doing here is this person's work for them. You're writing like the objective of the thread is to communicate with this particular person. It is not. The point of a thread is every other lurker reading it.
- itsyaboy123 2y agoIt’s extremely clear you don’t have any personal real-world experience with this, but let me assure you that no one who thinks Blacks are of sub-human intelligence gets there by sitting down and digging into research and weighing the various arguments for and against. They start with the prejudice and they latch on to whatever allows them to justify it. There is no point in making arguments at all, either to this particular piece of shit or to whatever pieces of shit will permit a nasty internet comment to justify prejudices they already hold. The only thing that works is to make it clear to these people that no one is fooled about what their views really are, that those views are repulsive to decent ordinary people and that holding them is grounds for ostracism and abuse. Politely tolerating and debating them doesn’t sway any bystanders away into thinking “hey, maybe Blacks are fully equal to other humans after all”, it only gives social permission to fellow travelers who would otherwise feel pressured to conceal or temper their racism, and normalizes the idea that the essential humanity and equality of Blacks and other minorities is a legitimate topic of debate.