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I would argue it was Scala, not Kotlin, that has contributed to the push to make Java “better”.
by halfmatthalfcat 2y ago
I would argue it was Scala, not Kotlin, that has contributed to the push to make Java “better”.
- desiderantes 2y agoScala and Groovy were big pushes for Java 7/8. Their hypes died down after that release.
- marwis 2y agoWhere do you see pattern matching in Kotlin?
- totallykvothe 2y agoIn its pattern matching feature
- wiseowise 2y agoKotlin has no pattern matching. Their bootleg ‘when’ with guards is no match (no pun intended) for true pattern matching.
- jghn 2y agoI would argue that Scala drove Kotlin. And over the last 10 years at least, it's been Kotlin driving Java. What I saw happen was Kotlin taking over the mantle of "better java" from Scala, and aiming for an 80/20 type language compared to Scala. And for the most part, it's those 80% that are finding their way into Java.
- mrudolph22 2y agoMany of Kotlin's profound improvements will never find their way into Java because it's 25 years too late to do so. Java improves where it still can, which is the right thing to do. Sometimes Java even manages to improve on Kotlin because now it can learn from Kotlin and other languages. Nevertheless, it's impossible for Java to catch up to Kotlin, which was designed 15 years later with the explicit goal of fixing as many of Java's design mistakes as feasible for a JVM language.
- bdangubic 2y agopost back when kotlin is in top-8000 :) https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
- mrudolph22 2y agoKotlin is #23 in this irrelevant index.