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Do these firms target US citizens without a US warrant?
by WatchDog 2y ago
Do these firms target US citizens without a US warrant?
- tptacek 2y agoUS citizens are routinely targeted by CNE operations enabled by commercial tools, yes.
- dghlsakjg 2y agoYou don’t need a warrant to target US citizens unless you are the government.
- MaxPock 2y agoThe arrangement is that UKs GCHQ spies on US citizens and shares the info with CIA/NSA .
- justin66 2y agoOn the other hand, if you “target” Americans and you’re not the American government, you’re committing a crime.
- tptacek 2y agoNote here that we are describing firms that produce CNE tools, not organizations (lawfully constituted or otherwise) that actually use them. Production of exploits and implants is broadly legal everywhere in the world, including the US and Europe. The legality gets murky when you sell to non-governmental organizations (if prosecutors can demonstrate you knew the crimes that were to be committed with them), but most of the market appears to be governmental.
- singleshot_ 2y agoWell, this is not really true, given what we know about the government actor doctrine.