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There is an uptick in heart attacks and strokes just after the spring change. There is nothing natural about daylight savings. A terrible idea whose time is lon

There is an uptick in heart attacks and strokes just after the spring change. There is nothing natural about daylight savings. A terrible idea whose time is long due. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc0807104 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc0807104

scns 2y ago
Car accidents too.
zuminator 2y ago
A more recent study somewhat casts doubt on those conclusions: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542454823000814#appsec1 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S254245482... Besides, it's not like standard time is any more natural than daylight savings. The whole adherence to a strict twenty-four hour cycle is unnatural. In antiquity, people would plan their days around sunrise and sunset, and their bodies would gradually adjust to the seasonal shortening and lengthening of daylight with no abrupt transition necessary.
- zxcvbnm69 2y ago
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- mlyle 2y ago
  > Besides, it's not like standard time is any more natural than daylight savings The question is whether there are any downsides from abruptly changing wake cycles twice a year. That article does seem to bound the cardiac risks somewhat, but there's also the auto accident angle. There's also just the human suffering: stepping the clocks sucks. > and their bodies would gradually adjust to the seasonal shortening and lengthening of daylight with no abrupt transition necessary. Yah, but there's nothing gradual or natural about a 1 hour society-wide step in wakeup times. I'm not saying that people or businesses should never adjust what they're doing for daylight or other considerations. DST is a ham-fisted, blunt approach attempting to crudely fix the problem just by stepping society's clock.
- shreddit 2y ago
  Relative opening hours would be quite interesting: this store opens 1h after sunrise and closes 1h before sunset.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    fabulous idea - but you are making everyone know what time Sun rises and sets as well as light math. the phone will also be ringing constantly with “hey what time you close today?”
Zak 2y ago
There's also an uptick in car crashes after both clock changes, which the article mentions. I think that's probably worse than some additional waking darkness, whether it's in the morning or the evening. We're pretty good at artificial lighting these days.

scns 2y ago

Car accidents too.

zuminator 2y ago

A more recent study somewhat casts doubt on those conclusions: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542454823000814#appsec1 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S254245482... Besides, it's not like standard time is any more natural than daylight savings. The whole adherence to a strict twenty-four hour cycle is unnatural. In antiquity, people would plan their days around sunrise and sunset, and their bodies would gradually adjust to the seasonal shortening and lengthening of daylight with no abrupt transition necessary.

zxcvbnm69 2y ago
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mlyle 2y ago
> Besides, it's not like standard time is any more natural than daylight savings The question is whether there are any downsides from abruptly changing wake cycles twice a year. That article does seem to bound the cardiac risks somewhat, but there's also the auto accident angle. There's also just the human suffering: stepping the clocks sucks. > and their bodies would gradually adjust to the seasonal shortening and lengthening of daylight with no abrupt transition necessary. Yah, but there's nothing gradual or natural about a 1 hour society-wide step in wakeup times. I'm not saying that people or businesses should never adjust what they're doing for daylight or other considerations. DST is a ham-fisted, blunt approach attempting to crudely fix the problem just by stepping society's clock.
shreddit 2y ago
Relative opening hours would be quite interesting: this store opens 1h after sunrise and closes 1h before sunset.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  fabulous idea - but you are making everyone know what time Sun rises and sets as well as light math. the phone will also be ringing constantly with “hey what time you close today?”

Zak 2y ago

There's also an uptick in car crashes after both clock changes, which the article mentions. I think that's probably worse than some additional waking darkness, whether it's in the morning or the evening. We're pretty good at artificial lighting these days.