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Perhaps if looking at pictures of disturbing things on the internet gives you PTSD than this isn’t the kind of job for you? Not everyone can be a forensic inve

by sneak 2y ago

Perhaps if looking at pictures of disturbing things on the internet gives you PTSD than this isn’t the kind of job for you? Not everyone can be a forensic investigator or coroner, too. I know lots of people who can and do look at horrible pictures on the internet and have been doing so for 20+ years with no ill effects.

luqtas 2y ago
perhaps life on Kenya isn't easy as yours?
wruza 2y ago
It isn’t known in advance though. These people went to that job and got psychiatric diseases that, considering the thirdworldiness, they are unlikely to get rid of. I’m not talking about obvious “scream and run away” reaction here. One may think that it doesn’t affect them or people on the internet, but then it suddenly does after they binge it all day for a year. The fact that not less than 100% got PTSD should be telling something here.
eesmith 2y ago
The 100+ years of research on PTSD, starting from shell shock studies in WWI shows that PTSD isn't so simple. Some people come out with no problems, while their trenchmate facing almost identical situations suffers for the rest of their lives. In this case, the claim is that "it traumatised 100% of hundreds of former moderators tested for PTSD … In any other industry, if we discovered 100% of safety workers were being diagnosed with an illness caused by their work, the people responsible would be forced to resign and face the legal consequences for mass violations of people’s rights." Do those people you know look at horrible pictures on the internet for 8-10 hours each day?
Sharlin 2y ago
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- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  Leave these empty personal attacks off HN, please. Respond substantively.
- sneak 2y ago
  I didn’t make any claims about me. Read it again, more carefully, before making personal attacks.
  - doublerabbit 2y ago
    > Perhaps if looking at pictures of disturbing things on the internet gives you PTSD than this isn’t the kind of job for you? Perhaps these are jobs people are forced to do because the price of labour isn't as rich as other countries, trafficked and the likes. > I know lots of people who can and do look at horrible pictures on the internet and have been doing so for 20+ years with no ill effects. Looking at is different to moderating. I've sen my fair share of snuff from the first iraqi having their head cut off in 2005 all the way down to: ogrish/liveleak, goatse, tubgirl, 2girls1cup shock sites. But when you are faced with imagery of gruesome material day-in day-out on 12-hour shifts if not longer non-stop, being paid very little, it would take a toll on anyone. I've done it, lone-wolf sysop for a adult dating website for two years and the stuff I saw was moderate but still made me feel mentally disturbed. The normality wears off very quickly. Could you work a five days week looking at extreme obscenity imagery for $2 an hour?
    - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
      The alternative is they have no job. And it is clear what this job entails, so complaining about the main part of the job afterwards, as this small group of moderators is doing, seems disingenuous.

by sneak 2y ago

luqtas 2y ago

perhaps life on Kenya isn't easy as yours?

wruza 2y ago

It isn’t known in advance though. These people went to that job and got psychiatric diseases that, considering the thirdworldiness, they are unlikely to get rid of. I’m not talking about obvious “scream and run away” reaction here. One may think that it doesn’t affect them or people on the internet, but then it suddenly does after they binge it all day for a year. The fact that not less than 100% got PTSD should be telling something here.

eesmith 2y ago

The 100+ years of research on PTSD, starting from shell shock studies in WWI shows that PTSD isn't so simple. Some people come out with no problems, while their trenchmate facing almost identical situations suffers for the rest of their lives. In this case, the claim is that "it traumatised 100% of hundreds of former moderators tested for PTSD … In any other industry, if we discovered 100% of safety workers were being diagnosed with an illness caused by their work, the people responsible would be forced to resign and face the legal consequences for mass violations of people’s rights." Do those people you know look at horrible pictures on the internet for 8-10 hours each day?

Sharlin 2y ago

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blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
Leave these empty personal attacks off HN, please. Respond substantively.
sneak 2y ago
I didn’t make any claims about me. Read it again, more carefully, before making personal attacks.
- doublerabbit 2y ago
  > Perhaps if looking at pictures of disturbing things on the internet gives you PTSD than this isn’t the kind of job for you? Perhaps these are jobs people are forced to do because the price of labour isn't as rich as other countries, trafficked and the likes. > I know lots of people who can and do look at horrible pictures on the internet and have been doing so for 20+ years with no ill effects. Looking at is different to moderating. I've sen my fair share of snuff from the first iraqi having their head cut off in 2005 all the way down to: ogrish/liveleak, goatse, tubgirl, 2girls1cup shock sites. But when you are faced with imagery of gruesome material day-in day-out on 12-hour shifts if not longer non-stop, being paid very little, it would take a toll on anyone. I've done it, lone-wolf sysop for a adult dating website for two years and the stuff I saw was moderate but still made me feel mentally disturbed. The normality wears off very quickly. Could you work a five days week looking at extreme obscenity imagery for $2 an hour?
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
    The alternative is they have no job. And it is clear what this job entails, so complaining about the main part of the job afterwards, as this small group of moderators is doing, seems disingenuous.